How do you feel about 6" ("Long-slide") 1911's? - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

Uncle Giggles · 07-27-2007, 08:14 PM

I noticed something on Springfield-armory.com a minute ago that I never noticed before - The 1911 Loaded is available in 6" Long-Slide! Might be old news to most of you, but I never noticed it before. I knew that several manufacturers had 6-inchers, but never knew Springfield Armory did.

So... what is everyone's feelings about 6" 1911's? Is the purpose just better accuracy or what? Can't incredible accuracy be achieved with a finely-tuned 5"? If they're so great, why don't we see more non-1911 and polymer-framed pistols in 6" configurations?

What's the deal with these 6"ers?

DMWyatt · 07-27-2007, 08:43 PM

In the early part of the 20th century as the 1911 came into its own, accuracy nuts wanted more out of the 1911 than it was originally capable of. Without the current processes, the easiest way to get more accuracy was to make guns with longer barrels. The NRA guide to the 1911 Vol. 2 has a small history of the long slide 1911 and a test of the Springfield long slide. It's definitely a good read.

ichy_trigger · 07-28-2007, 05:35 AM

A 60 inch barrel is no more accurate than a 1 inch barrel, it just allows for a longer site radius which transfers into a gun thats more accurately AIMED. I personaly do not care for the look of a 6" 1911 but to each their own.

M2XD · 07-28-2007, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ichy_trigger

A 60 inch barrel is no more accurate than a 1 inch barrel, it just allows for a longer site radius which transfers into a gun thats more accurately AIMED. I personaly do not care for the look of a 6" 1911 but to each their own.

A 60 inch barrel?!? I bet that would be pretty accurate!

Cheers! M2

ichy_trigger · 07-28-2007, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by M2XD

A 60 inch barrel?!? I bet that would be pretty accurate!

Cheers! M2

Accually, I meant to put 60 inch, it doesnt matter how long the barrel is, the bullet still leaves it in the same manner with the same amound of rotation, given the same rate of twist in the rifling

Tard · 07-28-2007, 10:32 AM

The extended sight radius can make a big difference in the 'system accuracy' of the gun. That is, the gun's accuracy plus the shooters accuracy.

I'm very accurate with my XD.45ACP Tactical as is everyone who shoots it, I think because of the longer sighting radius.

My Beretta 92F? Same thing, long sighting radius, very accurate.

DMWyatt · 07-28-2007, 07:48 PM

IF the length of the barrel had no effect on the accuracy of a gun, at an indoor range without noticeable wind to deal with, a 2" snubbie would have the same accuracy as a 6" service revolver when shot from a rest. They don't... Also in consideration here is the heavier slide which helps with recoil, the longer sight radius as others have mentioned, and a better potential for a uniform powder burn and optimal velocity.

Apdl · 07-29-2007, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DMWyatt

IF the length of the barrel had no effect on the accuracy of a gun, at an indoor range without noticeable wind to deal with, a 2" snubbie would have the same accuracy as a 6" service revolver when shot from a rest. They don't... Also in consideration here is the heavier slide which helps with recoil, the longer sight radius as others have mentioned, and a better potential for a uniform powder burn and optimal velocity.

yea but the sight radius makes a huge aiming difference and the recoil has noting to do with the single shot accuracy of the gun so i am gonna have to fully agree with ichy here, but not on the looks i would make sweet sweet love to a SA Longslide it is a shame they are hard to get a hold of

Brickboy240 · 08-01-2007, 09:08 AM

Does anybody really find the sight radius in a 5" 1911 to be bad? Would one more inch make that much difference?

-Brickboy240

Uncle Giggles · 08-01-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Brickboy240

Does anybody really find the sight radius in a 5" 1911 to be bad? Would one more inch make that much difference?

I wonder the same thing... how much of a diff. in sight radius can one inch really make? Having never sighted down or even held a 6" bbl pistol, I have no idea. I'm sure there is some difference, but does it warrant going out and buying a 6" over a 5"?

07-27-2007, 08:14 PM	#1
Uncle Giggles XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 549	How do you feel about 6" ("Long-slide") 1911's? I noticed something on Springfield-armory.com a minute ago that I never noticed before - The 1911 Loaded is available in 6" Long-Slide! Might be old news to most of you, but I never noticed it before. I knew that several manufacturers had 6-inchers, but never knew Springfield Armory did. So... what is everyone's feelings about 6" 1911's? Is the purpose just better accuracy or what? Can't incredible accuracy be achieved with a finely-tuned 5"? If they're so great, why don't we see more non-1911 and polymer-framed pistols in 6" configurations? What's the deal with these 6"ers?

07-27-2007, 08:43 PM	#2
DMWyatt XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 893	In the early part of the 20th century as the 1911 came into its own, accuracy nuts wanted more out of the 1911 than it was originally capable of. Without the current processes, the easiest way to get more accuracy was to make guns with longer barrels. The NRA guide to the 1911 Vol. 2 has a small history of the long slide 1911 and a test of the Springfield long slide. It's definitely a good read. __________________ I pray for the post-apocalyptic world to come soon. Providing for my family without the monkeys on my back is a rewarding prospect...

07-28-2007, 05:35 AM	#3
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,525	A 60 inch barrel is no more accurate than a 1 inch barrel, it just allows for a longer site radius which transfers into a gun thats more accurately AIMED. I personaly do not care for the look of a 6" 1911 but to each their own. __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

07-28-2007, 10:32 AM	#6
Tard XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Machias, WA Posts: 3,015	The extended sight radius can make a big difference in the 'system accuracy' of the gun. That is, the gun's accuracy plus the shooters accuracy. I'm very accurate with my XD.45ACP Tactical as is everyone who shoots it, I think because of the longer sighting radius. My Beretta 92F? Same thing, long sighting radius, very accurate. __________________ The good times have been used up.

07-28-2007, 07:48 PM	#7
DMWyatt XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 893	IF the length of the barrel had no effect on the accuracy of a gun, at an indoor range without noticeable wind to deal with, a 2" snubbie would have the same accuracy as a 6" service revolver when shot from a rest. They don't... Also in consideration here is the heavier slide which helps with recoil, the longer sight radius as others have mentioned, and a better potential for a uniform powder burn and optimal velocity. __________________ I pray for the post-apocalyptic world to come soon. Providing for my family without the monkeys on my back is a rewarding prospect...

08-01-2007, 09:08 AM	#9
Brickboy240 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 9,264	Does anybody really find the sight radius in a 5" 1911 to be bad? Would one more inch make that much difference? -Brickboy240 __________________ The top 25% of wage earners in America pay 86% of all federal income taxes collected. (according to 2007 IRS website data) Es mejor morir a pie que vivir arrodillado Volvo...the Swedish Brick!

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