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Apdl · 06-14-2007, 11:02 PM

the STI but i herd there is a big waiting list

**Loves2Shoot** · 06-14-2007, 11:13 PM

If you want a Spartan, e-mail me scott@springerprecision.com

**mvician** · 06-15-2007, 12:46 AM

I'm sure all the above mentioned clones are ok but if it were me...I'd look for a nice used Colt XSE or 1991

I have a Llama and a Norinco so I'm not a total Colt snob

Mike

Brickboy240 · 06-15-2007, 08:55 AM

I have to agree. I have bought several Colts for under 600 bucks. My latest was last year - a very nice 1973 Combat Commanderin satin nickle. Why buy a MIM ridden foreign made 1911 when for the same money, you can have the genuine article?

On the Spartan magazine issue. I have notices alot of compaints on the 1911 forums about weak plunger springs in the RIA 1911s. Once the guys replace the weak plunger spring, the slide stop WILL hold the slie back after the last round. Since the Spartan is made by the same people (Armscorp) you might look into swapping the plunger spring for a Wolff extra power unit.

I ran into a lazy plunger spring on my 1973 Combat Commander, The slide would not lock back on every Wilson and Wolff mag I tried an my Colt mags with new Wolff springs. It drove me nuts. I talked with a local smith (Teddy Jacobsen....of "Actions by T" fame) and he told me to immediately leave the magazines alone and replace the plunger spring before I did anything else.

Turns out, he was 100% correct. I ordered a Wolff extra power plunger spring and the problem went away entirely and has never reared its ugly head agian. The old Colt is 100% nowdays.

Check and replace your plunger spring. If your Wilson mags run 100% in other guns...my money is on a lazy plunger spring.

- Brickboy240

para_org · 06-15-2007, 09:12 AM

I recently took a Colt in on trade. The total deal was well under 200 bucks of my time/money for getting it and fixing it up into running shape. It shoots EXCELLENTLY now.

The older stuff is out there, and if you are willing to invest a bit of 'elbow grease' and are willing to spend a bit of time with your 'ear to the ground', good forged guns of the past can be found and turned into top notch shooters for much less money than you might think.

Plinkomatic · 06-15-2007, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

...Once the guys replace the weak plunger spring, the slide stop WILL hold the slie back after the last round. Since the Spartan is made by the same people (Armscorp) you might look into swapping the plunger spring for a Wolff extra power unit.
- Brickboy240

Gonna check that out.
Sounds like $1 well spent.
Thanks BB.

Hersh · 08-14-2007, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalce

So which one would make a better range/fun/visitor gun for under $600?

An STI Spartan or the Taurus PT1911?

The Charles Daly Enhanced is the best buy for UNDER $500 11

vikz · 08-14-2007, 10:21 AM

You guys know that STI spartan uses Rock Island Parts right??its either the slide or the frame comes from the rock island custom shop in the philippines, yes they have a custom shop and its all hand fitted like every one else so yes i'll go with the STI Spartan or better yet i'll go with rock island tactical or their match pistol model...

The Punisher · 08-14-2007, 01:59 PM

RIA, i have heard nothing but good things about them. If not a Springer Mil Spec...

AKpredator · 08-14-2007, 08:56 PM

Indy has been shooting a Spartan and he likes it. It works well and shoots good. yoiu can tell it's not a ground up STI but for $ you can't ask for more.

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06-15-2007, 08:55 AM	#24
Brickboy240 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 9,948	I have to agree. I have bought several Colts for under 600 bucks. My latest was last year - a very nice 1973 Combat Commanderin satin nickle. Why buy a MIM ridden foreign made 1911 when for the same money, you can have the genuine article? On the Spartan magazine issue. I have notices alot of compaints on the 1911 forums about weak plunger springs in the RIA 1911s. Once the guys replace the weak plunger spring, the slide stop WILL hold the slie back after the last round. Since the Spartan is made by the same people (Armscorp) you might look into swapping the plunger spring for a Wolff extra power unit. I ran into a lazy plunger spring on my 1973 Combat Commander, The slide would not lock back on every Wilson and Wolff mag I tried an my Colt mags with new Wolff springs. It drove me nuts. I talked with a local smith (Teddy Jacobsen....of "Actions by T" fame) and he told me to immediately leave the magazines alone and replace the plunger spring before I did anything else. Turns out, he was 100% correct. I ordered a Wolff extra power plunger spring and the problem went away entirely and has never reared its ugly head agian. The old Colt is 100% nowdays. Check and replace your plunger spring. If your Wilson mags run 100% in other guns...my money is on a lazy plunger spring. - Brickboy240 __________________ The top 25% of wage earners in America pay 86% of all federal income taxes collected. (according to 2007 IRS website data) Es mejor morir a pie que vivir arrodillado Volvo...the Swedish Brick!

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06-15-2007, 12:46 AM	#23
mvician XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 3,340	I'm sure all the above mentioned clones are ok but if it were me...I'd look for a nice used Colt XSE or 1991 I have a Llama and a Norinco so I'm not a total Colt snob Mike

06-15-2007, 09:12 AM	#25
para_org XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 375	I recently took a Colt in on trade. The total deal was well under 200 bucks of my time/money for getting it and fixing it up into running shape. It shoots EXCELLENTLY now. The older stuff is out there, and if you are willing to invest a bit of 'elbow grease' and are willing to spend a bit of time with your 'ear to the ground', good forged guns of the past can be found and turned into top notch shooters for much less money than you might think.

08-14-2007, 10:21 AM	#28
vikz XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 745	You guys know that STI spartan uses Rock Island Parts right??its either the slide or the frame comes from the rock island custom shop in the philippines, yes they have a custom shop and its all hand fitted like every one else so yes i'll go with the STI Spartan or better yet i'll go with rock island tactical or their match pistol model...

08-14-2007, 08:56 PM	#30
AKpredator XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 398	Indy has been shooting a Spartan and he likes it. It works well and shoots good. yoiu can tell it's not a ground up STI but for $ you can't ask for more.