Springfield EMP or Para's Hawg 9 - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

Ripplingh2o · 12-02-2006, 01:50 PM

OK, so I'm in the market for a (new) CCW in 9mm and I thought I narrowed my choice down to Springfield's new EMP. GREAT looking handgun but at a GREAT price ($985 ish). Then I stumbled upon Para Ordnance's hawg 9...same compact design and I like the astetics of the stainless finish controls against the blued finish of the frame and slide. Both companies offer lifetime warranties and I've read pluses and minuses towards each. Anyway, for sake of forum discussion and suggestion what'cha all think? Spend a grand for the EMP or save 300 and get the hawg 9? I know what plus for the hawg 9 is the high cap mag. Thanks for your thoughts.

Apdl · 12-02-2006, 02:33 PM

i love the new SA EMP but from what i have read id go with the Para
http://ezine.m1911.org/POCWX79R.htm
http://ezine.m1911.org/SAemp.htm

menecer24 · 12-02-2006, 02:52 PM

i would go with the EMP ive never liked the hawg to much plus from things ive read like in gun test which compares guns they never liked it too much. I like para's just not the hawg. you could also look at the kimber aegis II which is a 9mm and just had a great review in guns&ammo and i saw it at the same price as the emp if the line wasnt so long i would have bought it this saturday but had to get for dinner.

Chewie146 · 12-02-2006, 07:03 PM

Well the Hawg is gonna be about like an SC XD. It's too big for a pocket gun and too small for a CCL (IMO). If I wanted a micro gun, I'd probably go with a Kahr. My buddy has one and I shoot it better than I do a lot of full sized guns. Check those out, too.

grstudent · 12-02-2006, 07:46 PM

I really like the Hawg 9 as well. I have heard that it is kind of a hit or miss with the whole hawg line. Although those who get a good Hawg absolutely love the thing and couldnt be happier. I dont know if I would trust the EMP just yet, as I havent heard much in the line of test or gun reports yet. I do want a micro 1911, and haqve been looking at the RIA line as an inexpensive option. My $.02.

bikes_beer_guns_girls · 12-02-2006, 08:44 PM

I would go with the hawg because i don't like buying to many things the first go around. I personally have a taurus pt111 mill and i love it. It's small and very accurate

philbo · 12-04-2006, 03:19 PM

The new Para Carry in 9mm might be closer in comparison to the EMP. It's a single stack 9mm, double action only (LDA). I've had the 6.45 carry model for years and have never been disappointed.

http://ezine.m1911.org/POCWX79R_frame.htm

toot1 · 12-22-2006, 05:20 AM

Slim Hawg is the perfect carry gun. Depending on your preference. The Hawg 9 is a shooter but if your going to carry a gun that thick you could carry an alloy commander. IMO

Ripplingh2o · 12-22-2006, 06:43 AM

Thanks for the suggestions and recommendations. I opted for the Springfield EMP and got it last week. Took it to the range and put 100 rounds of Winchester 115gr WB through it without a failure of any kind. Shot a consistent 6-10 inch group at 15 yards offhand without any problems. Also picked up a Gould & Goodrich Model 800 holster for it and the EMP fits the holster perfectly. I guess call it an early Christmas present for me from me

vashooter · 12-24-2006, 09:44 PM

Not too pick but if you are shooting 6-10 inch groups off hand you have got a problem with having an accurate pistol....that sounds a little to much like a bad shooting pistol to me IMHO Floyd

Personally I would have gone with the Para due to the beefed up extractor

12-02-2006, 01:50 PM	#1
Ripplingh2o XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern Minnesota Posts: 130	Springfield EMP or Para's Hawg 9 OK, so I'm in the market for a (new) CCW in 9mm and I thought I narrowed my choice down to Springfield's new EMP. GREAT looking handgun but at a GREAT price ($985 ish). Then I stumbled upon Para Ordnance's hawg 9...same compact design and I like the astetics of the stainless finish controls against the blued finish of the frame and slide. Both companies offer lifetime warranties and I've read pluses and minuses towards each. Anyway, for sake of forum discussion and suggestion what'cha all think? Spend a grand for the EMP or save 300 and get the hawg 9? I know what plus for the hawg 9 is the high cap mag. Thanks for your thoughts.

12-02-2006, 02:33 PM	#2
Apdl XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Burnsville, MN Posts: 2,354	i love the new SA EMP but from what i have read id go with the Para http://ezine.m1911.org/POCWX79R.htm http://ezine.m1911.org/SAemp.htm __________________ "He took off running, and we caught him, and he just kept resisting. So we just kept whipping his ass." -HulkXD "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein If you are not part of the solution you are part of the precipitate Springfield XD-9 TOTAL COUNT 8206 Daily Carry Springfield 1911 Loaded Target 9mm Walther P22... needs bigger mag Ruger 10/22 Carbine Remington 700 SPS Tactical .308 Win EBR Build in progress

12-02-2006, 02:52 PM	#3
menecer24 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Brooklyn michigan Posts: 133	i would go with the EMP ive never liked the hawg to much plus from things ive read like in gun test which compares guns they never liked it too much. I like para's just not the hawg. you could also look at the kimber aegis II which is a 9mm and just had a great review in guns&ammo and i saw it at the same price as the emp if the line wasnt so long i would have bought it this saturday but had to get for dinner. __________________ XDSC 9mm OD Kimber Tactical Pro II 9mm Kimber Custom Target II 38 super Kimber Custom carry II 45acp duo-tone Ruger P90 45 ACP, Beretta 96FS 40 S&W Beretta 96 vertec 40 S&W Ruger Vaquero 45LC, Beretta 950BS 25 ACP S&W 38 snubbie S&W crimson trace grips, Colt police positive special 32-20 first gen, Dan Wesson 715 357mag 8in

12-02-2006, 07:03 PM	#4
Chewie146 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Alamos Posts: 727	Well the Hawg is gonna be about like an SC XD. It's too big for a pocket gun and too small for a CCL (IMO). If I wanted a micro gun, I'd probably go with a Kahr. My buddy has one and I shoot it better than I do a lot of full sized guns. Check those out, too. __________________ ----------------------------------------------------------- "Beware the man with one gun..." Befriend the man with 30?

12-02-2006, 08:44 PM	#6
bikes_beer_guns_girls XDTalk Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 97	I would go with the hawg because i don't like buying to many things the first go around. I personally have a taurus pt111 mill and i love it. It's small and very accurate __________________ NEW Xd 45 compact (concealed carry) XD 9mm service (concealed carry) Taurus Pt111 millenium I do not love the bright sword for it's sharpness, nor the arrow for it's swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. (J.R.R. Tolkien, The Two Towers)

12-02-2006, 07:46 PM	#5
grstudent XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 19	I really like the Hawg 9 as well. I have heard that it is kind of a hit or miss with the whole hawg line. Although those who get a good Hawg absolutely love the thing and couldnt be happier. I dont know if I would trust the EMP just yet, as I havent heard much in the line of test or gun reports yet. I do want a micro 1911, and haqve been looking at the RIA line as an inexpensive option. My $.02.

12-04-2006, 03:19 PM	#7
philbo XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 291	The new Para Carry in 9mm might be closer in comparison to the EMP. It's a single stack 9mm, double action only (LDA). I've had the 6.45 carry model for years and have never been disappointed. http://ezine.m1911.org/POCWX79R_frame.htm

12-22-2006, 05:20 AM	#8
toot1 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 25	Slim Hawg is the perfect carry gun. Depending on your preference. The Hawg 9 is a shooter but if your going to carry a gun that thick you could carry an alloy commander. IMO

12-22-2006, 06:43 AM	#9
Ripplingh2o XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern Minnesota Posts: 130	Thanks for the suggestions and recommendations. I opted for the Springfield EMP and got it last week. Took it to the range and put 100 rounds of Winchester 115gr WB through it without a failure of any kind. Shot a consistent 6-10 inch group at 15 yards offhand without any problems. Also picked up a Gould & Goodrich Model 800 holster for it and the EMP fits the holster perfectly. I guess call it an early Christmas present for me from me

12-24-2006, 09:44 PM	#10
vashooter XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Newport News. Virginia Posts: 236	Not too pick but if you are shooting 6-10 inch groups off hand you have got a problem with having an accurate pistol....that sounds a little to much like a bad shooting pistol to me IMHO Floyd Personally I would have gone with the Para due to the beefed up extractor __________________ \"there is nothing contrved by man by which so much happiness is produced by a good tavern or\"inn\" Last edited by vashooter; 12-25-2006 at 04:56 AM.

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