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Modificationvt · 11-06-2009, 02:11 PM

cocked and locked with one in the pipe is the only way to carry a 1911. trying to drop the hammer is just asking for a hole in something you dont want a hole in. also, It isn't that hard to carry a 1911 concealed, I carry a full size springfield GI 1911 every day, usualy in a Ctac IWB holster, some times in a OWB too. its not that difficult to conceal

**Krackels** · 11-06-2009, 04:52 PM

Always carry a 1911 cocked and locked.

gigster · 11-06-2009, 07:18 PM

I find my Kimber 4 inch easy to conceal, because a single stacker is so thin. Also, the 2 spare mags in a double pouch are very thin. If I'm doing the suit-jacket thing, I almost always choose the 1911 over the XD45C. Th Alessi CQC-S holster helps, because it is high, and tight.

danp · 11-06-2009, 09:21 PM

Cocked and locked and ready to rock!

A 1911 in one form or another has been my go-to gun for a lot of years and I won't even consider carrying one any other way.

MagicPie · 11-07-2009, 09:21 PM

I've only carried 1911, due to their lower profile, and me being somewhat skinny, it's the only gun that will conceal well.

And of course, always cocked and locked. 5 years of carry like this and never a concern.

TheShadow · 11-12-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by norinco982lover

Also, I do not recommend lowering the hammer on a 1911. You have a good chance of slipping and having a negligient discharge. I have read about several instances where this happened. If you do feel the need to carry in this manner please put a 5 gallon bucket full of sand in your office and point the gun in there when lowering the hammer.

So true about lowering the hammer.
Plus in the Kimber manual it says...

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Originally Posted by Kimber

Pull the trigger allowing the hammer to fall forward on the empty chamber. Do not "ease" the hammer down by holding it or blocking it. Doing so may mar the sear tip resulting in a substandard trigger pull.

No need for the sand bucket though. It's best to just drop the mag clear the chamber then drop the hammer by pulling the trigger. Plus you get another dry fire practice opportunity

robot · 11-12-2009, 12:23 PM

Here are the conditions as described by Jeff Cooper :

Condition 0 - A round is in the chamber, hammer is cocked, and the safety is off.
Condition 1 - Also known as "cocked and locked," means a round is in the chamber, the hammer is cocked, and the manual thumb safety on the side of the frame is applied.
Condition 2 - A round is in the chamber and the hammer is down.
Condition 3 - The chamber is empty and hammer is down with a charged magazine in the gun.
Condition 4 - The chamber is empty, hammer is down and no magazine is in the gun.

The Sight 1911 Conditions of Readiness Page

zenfly · 11-13-2009, 06:26 AM

A big help here is a Crossbreed Supertuck..

beakersloco · 11-14-2009, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norinco982lover

Also, I do not recommend lowering the hammer on a 1911. You have a good chance of slipping and having a negligient discharge. I have read about several instances where this happened. If you do feel the need to carry in this manner please put a 5 gallon bucket full of sand in your office and point the gun in there when lowering the hammer.

~Norinco

So very true ... my dad told me a nice story about his days as an MP and doing fugitive transport/going after those who go AWOL/get into trouble off base etc. Basically him and his partner were in a hotel room and his partner decided to lower the hammer and needless to say they a night spent a night in the slammer until someone of a higher rank came to get them out.

Cuda66 · 11-14-2009, 09:31 AM

When I used to carry a 1911, always condition 1.

However, I also had a holster with a thumbreak snap that rode between the hammer and firing pin...I probably wouldn't feel that was necessary now, but I was new to carrying, and wanted a little extra bit of (in my mind) security.

If one is concerned about carrying condition 1, this is always an option.

11-06-2009, 02:11 PM	#11
Modificationvt XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlington Vermont Posts: 1,661	cocked and locked with one in the pipe is the only way to carry a 1911. trying to drop the hammer is just asking for a hole in something you dont want a hole in. also, It isn't that hard to carry a 1911 concealed, I carry a full size springfield GI 1911 every day, usualy in a Ctac IWB holster, some times in a OWB too. its not that difficult to conceal __________________ Jade Lotus tattoo and piercing, 64 North St, Burlington Vt, 802-881-0305 12-8 seven days a week. If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so-Thomas Jefferson
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Krackels XDTalk 20K Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 21,977 Blog Entries: 5	Always carry a 1911 cocked and locked. __________________ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin PA Roll Call & PA XDTalkers UserGroup
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11-06-2009, 07:18 PM	#13
gigster XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 183	I find my Kimber 4 inch easy to conceal, because a single stacker is so thin. Also, the 2 spare mags in a double pouch are very thin. If I'm doing the suit-jacket thing, I almost always choose the 1911 over the XD45C. Th Alessi CQC-S holster helps, because it is high, and tight.
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11-06-2009, 09:21 PM	#14
danp XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 4,024	Cocked and locked and ready to rock! A 1911 in one form or another has been my go-to gun for a lot of years and I won't even consider carrying one any other way. __________________ Men who for truth and honor's sake Stand fast and suffer long. Brave men who work while others sleep, Who dare while others fly... They build a nation's pillars deep And lift them to the sky. - Emerson http://www.pocketfirepower.com/ "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Nietzche
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11-07-2009, 09:21 PM	#15
MagicPie XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The only good state-TX Posts: 602	I've only carried 1911, due to their lower profile, and me being somewhat skinny, it's the only gun that will conceal well. And of course, always cocked and locked. 5 years of carry like this and never a concern. __________________ (~_~) Perfectly symmetrical violence never solved anything. - Professor Farnsworth.
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11-12-2009, 12:23 PM	#17
robot XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Duvall, WA Posts: 216	Here are the conditions as described by Jeff Cooper : Condition 0 - A round is in the chamber, hammer is cocked, and the safety is off. Condition 1 - Also known as "cocked and locked," means a round is in the chamber, the hammer is cocked, and the manual thumb safety on the side of the frame is applied. Condition 2 - A round is in the chamber and the hammer is down. Condition 3 - The chamber is empty and hammer is down with a charged magazine in the gun. Condition 4 - The chamber is empty, hammer is down and no magazine is in the gun. The Sight 1911 Conditions of Readiness Page __________________ [ XD(m) .40 S&W \| PRP Trigger \| Pistolgear Magwell \| Dawson Fiber Front ] [ Kimber Stainless Custom TLE / RL II .45 ACP \| TruGlo Tritium G/Y Sights ] [ http://gunbot.wordpress.com \| http://www.youtube.com/user/gunrobot ]
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11-13-2009, 06:26 AM	#18
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11-14-2009, 09:31 AM	#20
Cuda66 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: McLeod County, MN Posts: 1,951	When I used to carry a 1911, always condition 1. However, I also had a holster with a thumbreak snap that rode between the hammer and firing pin...I probably wouldn't feel that was necessary now, but I was new to carrying, and wanted a little extra bit of (in my mind) security. If one is concerned about carrying condition 1, this is always an option. __________________ I never learned from a man who agreed with me.--R.A.H
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