Full length guide rod coming loose - XDTalk Forums

stevenorlando · 05-24-2009, 10:59 AM

Hello All!

As most of you know, I have a LW Operator, and so far I am happy with it

However, I noticed after a range session with about 50 rounds of 230gr FMJ ammo, that when I go to field-strip it, the 5/32 Allen screw which you unscrew to take apart the two piece guide rod is not tight, it is noticeably loose, however, far from coming off.

Can this be a problem, should I check it between mag loads at the range

Steve

**Cannibul** · 05-24-2009, 12:50 PM

Either use some blue Loctite or ditch it.

xd4life · 05-24-2009, 02:39 PM

Thread it to the next size with a tap and get the proper size hex screw from any hobby store, maybe even home depot, or lowes. Sounds like you might have over torqued it and strip the end...

Replacing the screw will probably fix it as well

charlie.45 · 05-24-2009, 02:44 PM

ditch it and get a GI configured guide rod so much easier to take apart and I really don't think they add much for accuracy most of the time.

scooterj · 05-24-2009, 07:09 PM

2 piece guide rods are trouble looking for a place to happen. Switch to a 1 piece FLGR or a GI plug and never have to worry again.

danp · 05-24-2009, 07:17 PM

I have 1000's of rounds through my Colt with a 2-piece FLGR with no problems. That being said, if/when I begin having issues with it, it will go away and be replaced with a GI style rod.

tt350z · 05-25-2009, 05:44 PM

Ive got a few thousand rounds through both my Loaded and TRP and never had the rod loosen up. Maybe try some vibra tite or blue loctite and previously suggested.

stevenorlando · 07-02-2009, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tt350z

Ive got a few thousand rounds through both my Loaded and TRP and never had the rod loosen up. Maybe try some vibra tite or blue loctite and previously suggested.

Hello All,

Hello All!

I think I know why it was coming loose. TOO MUCH CLP!

I apply the minimum CLP when cleaning, tighten it up good, and so far it has been staying tight

Charlie Xray · 07-06-2009, 09:51 PM

The best advice given by most posters is to get rid of the full length guide rod, especially if it is two-piece. They have not been proven to improve anything but do cause problems. The original short one-piece as designed by JMB did not need fixing. I got rid of the two I bought 25 years ago and put the originals back in about 15 years ago. And I immediately replaced the one that came in my new Kimber. They are a solution to a non-existent problem.

CX

greyhounder · 07-08-2009, 03:20 PM

had the same problem with a para-blue loctite didn't work for long,it seems IF they get loose, their loose, I changed to a GI length.

05-24-2009, 10:59 AM	#1
stevenorlando XDTalk Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 31	Full length guide rod coming loose Hello All! As most of you know, I have a LW Operator, and so far I am happy with it However, I noticed after a range session with about 50 rounds of 230gr FMJ ammo, that when I go to field-strip it, the 5/32 Allen screw which you unscrew to take apart the two piece guide rod is not tight, it is noticeably loose, however, far from coming off. Can this be a problem, should I check it between mag loads at the range Steve __________________ Steve http://www.sorlando.com/shootpage/1911page.html http://www.sorlando.com/shootpage/1911page02.html
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05-24-2009, 12:50 PM	#2
Cannibul XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Moscow on the Willamette Posts: 3,968	Either use some blue Loctite or ditch it. __________________ Semper Fi You have the right to be stupid. But some of you are abusing the right. Some people are too stupid to know what ammo their firearm uses. Those people are the bleach in the gene pool. 55% of the ADULT population of the US are functionally illiterate. http://tinyurl.com/96qlnr and most of them post on Internet Forums. Everyone should do these lessons. http://www.better-english.com/easier.htm Looking for PV? www.rexgrigg.com/politics
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05-24-2009, 02:39 PM	#3
xd4life XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in HOTLANTA Posts: 3,401	Thread it to the next size with a tap and get the proper size hex screw from any hobby store, maybe even home depot, or lowes. Sounds like you might have over torqued it and strip the end... Replacing the screw will probably fix it as well __________________ A government is the most dangerous threat to man's rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims. Ayn Rand Force and mind are opposites; morality ends where a gun begins. Ayn Rand One Big A$$ Mistake America Last edited by xd4life; 05-24-2009 at 02:48 PM.
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05-24-2009, 02:44 PM	#4
charlie.45 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jacksonville,FL Posts: 1,936	ditch it and get a GI configured guide rod so much easier to take apart and I really don't think they add much for accuracy most of the time. __________________ Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! Patrick Henry
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05-24-2009, 07:09 PM	#5
scooterj XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: LaPlace, LA Posts: 563	2 piece guide rods are trouble looking for a place to happen. Switch to a 1 piece FLGR or a GI plug and never have to worry again.
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05-24-2009, 07:17 PM	#6
danp XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 4,024	I have 1000's of rounds through my Colt with a 2-piece FLGR with no problems. That being said, if/when I begin having issues with it, it will go away and be replaced with a GI style rod. __________________ Men who for truth and honor's sake Stand fast and suffer long. Brave men who work while others sleep, Who dare while others fly... They build a nation's pillars deep And lift them to the sky. - Emerson http://www.pocketfirepower.com/ "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Nietzche
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05-25-2009, 05:44 PM	#7
tt350z XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Dakota Posts: 124	Ive got a few thousand rounds through both my Loaded and TRP and never had the rod loosen up. Maybe try some vibra tite or blue loctite and previously suggested.
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07-06-2009, 09:51 PM	#9
Charlie Xray XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 144	The best advice given by most posters is to get rid of the full length guide rod, especially if it is two-piece. They have not been proven to improve anything but do cause problems. The original short one-piece as designed by JMB did not need fixing. I got rid of the two I bought 25 years ago and put the originals back in about 15 years ago. And I immediately replaced the one that came in my new Kimber. They are a solution to a non-existent problem. CX
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07-08-2009, 03:20 PM	#10
greyhounder XDTalk Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Baldwin, NY Posts: 48	had the same problem with a para-blue loctite didn't work for long,it seems IF they get loose, their loose, I changed to a GI length.
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