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**DanTheEldest** · 06-26-2008, 07:15 PM

I just caught this tragic story over on FoxNews....

FOXNews.com - Florida Authorities Say Inmate Raped, Murdered Corrections Officer - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

....and it brings a question to my mind regarding the role of women as corrections officers in all-male prisons. Given these generalities:

1. On average, the female is not typically as physically strong as a male counterpart, even after LE training
2. Male prisoners tend to get stronger in prison, both to defend themselves and because there's not much else to do
3. Prisoners in an all-male environment experience a great deal of sexual repression, and the consequent aggressive tendencies can reveal themselves explosively
4. Corrections officers tend not to be armed as much as street LE

....is it a really a good idea to have women working as correctional officers in all-male prisons? It seems like they'd be easier pickings for locked-up psychos (especially if found alone) than a comparable male officer.

I'll probably catch hell from the equal-opportunity folks for even asking, but I'd like to hear your thoughts, particularly if you're LE or otherwise knowledgeable about prison security.

The Tengu · 06-27-2008, 12:59 AM

Screw the equal opportunity folks. An average-strength male is always stronger than the average-strength female.

ParagonUSMC · 06-27-2008, 05:22 AM

I think segregation is appropriate. Having a female in that kind of enviroment would be too much of a distraction and far too much of a liability. Also, I feel that having male guards in a female prison is a bad idea; I wouldn't put it past female prisoners to falsely accuse them of sexual harrasement/abuse/rape just to try to start a legal battle to get themselves released.

Yuppicide · 06-27-2008, 05:29 AM

Maybe they should segregate the guards by RACE too! A WHITE guard for the Aryans, A BLACK guard for the brothers, And TWO HISPANICs...1 for the Nortenos & 1 for the Surenos...............

Mercmar · 06-29-2008, 08:37 AM

In my state, hiring only white officers to guard white prisoners would mean laying off almost all the white officers, as an overwhelming majority of crimes for which people go to prison are committed by African-Americans.

billfromtx · 06-30-2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Yuppicide

Maybe they should segregate the guards by RACE too! A WHITE guard for the Aryans, A BLACK guard for the brothers, And TWO HISPANICs...1 for the Nortenos & 1 for the Surenos...............

That would put a lot of white Prison gaurds out of work!

kjmahoney85 · 06-30-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercmar

In my state, hiring only white officers to guard white prisoners would mean laying off almost all the white officers, as an overwhelming majority of crimes for which people go to prison are committed by African-Americans.

You know that line in the sand? I think I see it coming up quite soon...

HulkXD · 07-02-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kjmahoney85

You know that line in the sand? I think I see it coming up quite soon...

Unfortunately, it's a sad truth. Mercmar has it right....

Lurch · 07-02-2008, 02:17 PM

I guess this sad story is relevant

http://www.policelink.com/news/34518...-in-fla-prison

**DanTheEldest** · 07-02-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurch

I guess this sad story is relevant

Female C.O. Raped, Murdered in Fla. Prison - Police Link

You are correct, sir. In fact, it's so relevant it's what inspired this thread. See the link in the original post.

06-26-2008, 07:15 PM	#1
DanTheEldest XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,520	Should corrections officers be segregated by sex? I just caught this tragic story over on FoxNews.... FOXNews.com - Florida Authorities Say Inmate Raped, Murdered Corrections Officer - Local News \| News Articles \| National News \| US News ....and it brings a question to my mind regarding the role of women as corrections officers in all-male prisons. Given these generalities: 1. On average, the female is not typically as physically strong as a male counterpart, even after LE training 2. Male prisoners tend to get stronger in prison, both to defend themselves and because there's not much else to do 3. Prisoners in an all-male environment experience a great deal of sexual repression, and the consequent aggressive tendencies can reveal themselves explosively 4. Corrections officers tend not to be armed as much as street LE ....is it a really a good idea to have women working as correctional officers in all-male prisons? It seems like they'd be easier pickings for locked-up psychos (especially if found alone) than a comparable male officer. I'll probably catch hell from the equal-opportunity folks for even asking, but I'd like to hear your thoughts, particularly if you're LE or otherwise knowledgeable about prison security. __________________ The only things more disturbing than the base ideologies of the new President are the lengths to which his supporters and apologists will go to try to convince themselves and the rest of us that he's not exactly who he says he is. Innocent life is cheap--a few hundred bucks for an abortion. Guilty life is expensive--a couple million for appeals, incarceration, and execution. How bass-ackwards is our society?

06-27-2008, 12:59 AM	#2
The Tengu XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,836	Screw the equal opportunity folks. An average-strength male is always stronger than the average-strength female. __________________ The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. United States Code, Title 10, section 311, paragraph (a)

06-27-2008, 05:29 AM	#4
Yuppicide XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Get outta my way! Can't you see I'm from East Bay? -NOFX Posts: 2,166	Maybe they should segregate the guards by RACE too! A WHITE guard for the Aryans, A BLACK guard for the brothers, And TWO HISPANICs...1 for the Nortenos & 1 for the Surenos............... __________________ . "I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter....." Last edited by Yuppicide; 06-27-2008 at 10:30 AM.

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Lurch XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 138	I guess this sad story is relevant http://www.policelink.com/news/34518...-in-fla-prison __________________ Search & Rescue: Saving the worlds idiots from natural selection. http://defarge.deviantart.com/store/

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06-27-2008, 05:22 AM	#3
ParagonUSMC XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 235	I think segregation is appropriate. Having a female in that kind of enviroment would be too much of a distraction and far too much of a liability. Also, I feel that having male guards in a female prison is a bad idea; I wouldn't put it past female prisoners to falsely accuse them of sexual harrasement/abuse/rape just to try to start a legal battle to get themselves released.

06-29-2008, 08:37 AM	#5
Mercmar XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,832	In my state, hiring only white officers to guard white prisoners would mean laying off almost all the white officers, as an overwhelming majority of crimes for which people go to prison are committed by African-Americans.