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Reno82 · 06-26-2008, 06:46 PM

Think of this combo... XD45 Service w/ bug PT-145.... both 45's. PT-145 has a safety and is the same size as the XD9SC. Also the PT-145 is a DA/SA weapon.... keep pulling the trigger if it doesn't fire. Good luck.

danp · 06-26-2008, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Reno82

keep pulling the trigger if it doesn't fire.

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Bad advice...If it goes "click" instead of "bang," you should tap, rack and get back in the fight. Multiple clicks are a waste of time.

The Tengu · 06-26-2008, 11:56 PM

If I could do it, I'd have a S&W M&P .40 full size/compact combo.

Reno82 · 06-27-2008, 12:24 AM

danp... if its not jammed... pull the trigger twice then tap and rack and back to the fight.

drs1321 · 06-27-2008, 02:33 PM

On the 17/26 topic...Our dept. carries Glock 22's and a lot of guys carry the 27 for the same reason.

danp · 06-27-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Reno82

danp... if its not jammed... pull the trigger twice then tap and rack and back to the fight.

Copy...not how I read the OP. We train our officers that even with second-strike capability, the chances of a bad round going off on the second strike are slim. Therefore, any "click" when you are in battery gets a tap and rack.

I don't remember the last time I had a misfire with good factory ammo, so I really don't see second strike capability as that much of a benefit.

The Tengu · 06-27-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by danp

Copy...not how I read the OP. We train our officers that even with second-strike capability, the chances of a bad round going off on the second strike are slim. Therefore, any "click" when you are in battery gets a tap and rack.

I don't remember the last time I had a misfire with good factory ammo, so I really don't see second strike capability as that much of a benefit.

Tap-rack-reassess works with ALL semi-auto pistols, so you just need one skillset to deal with malfunctions on almost any pistol.

awmp · 07-10-2008, 09:41 AM

Are XD45 with safeties worth a luck? I have talked to others that say a safety on a duty weapon is a terrible idea, others say great officer safety if firearm is taken.
Thoughts?

**SVThuh** · 07-10-2008, 12:37 PM

I was thinking XD40 Service/XD40SC

Great combo, mag interchangeability and familarity with the weapon. I like the 40 a bit more than the 9mm too, so I just might be biased a bit.

My other option for you would be a Sig 226 in 9mm or .40 and a XDSC of either flavor. The Sig 226 is a world beater in terms of natural point and shoot characteristics, follow up shot accuracy and so on. I have a P228 and P239 combo that I like a lot. The 228 is a tad smaller than the 226, holds 2 less rounds, but the same ergonomics. They are hard to beat. I like the XD and all, but the Sig is just world class!

griz312000 · 07-10-2008, 01:26 PM

I carried one kind or another of the 1911 .45 for 20 years in law enforcement and it served me well. However, with the newer hi-cap pistols, I think that may very well be the way to go. I just picked up the new XDm .40 and am very impressed...16+1 with another 32 rounds on the duty belt, and the .40's a proven man stopper with the proper ammo. The only problem right now is finding a holster to fit, but I'm sure the big holster makers are already working on it. As far as the BUG, find something that is comfortable to carry and conceal, that you can shoot well, and nothing less than .380. Even the .380 is marginal, but with the advances in bullet technology it is approaching .38 Special performance. I have a little "Elsie Pea" (Ruger LCP) and at 7 yards she'll dump 'em all in the head. Extremely easy to conceal in even a shirt pocket, but safer in a pocket holster that covers the trigger guard. With Hydra-shocks or Gold Dots I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end. Good luck, keep your head down, and come back safely!!!!!!

06-26-2008, 06:46 PM	#11
Reno82 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,247	Think of this combo... XD45 Service w/ bug PT-145.... both 45's. PT-145 has a safety and is the same size as the XD9SC. Also the PT-145 is a DA/SA weapon.... keep pulling the trigger if it doesn't fire. Good luck. __________________ XD-45acp Service (Match Gun I changed it to a compact for CCW... did a grip chop on it) Ruger Mark III 22/45 Kimber SS Custom Target II 10mm Walther G22 (FUN GUN) XD-45acp Tactical (Match Gun II; upgraded the bbl from PistolGear) XD-9 Sub-Compact (Home Defense and CCW) DPMS AR-15: 9mm (1/17/08...) RRA CAR A4 Upper 223/5.56---did a lower bulid 6/3/08 and bought completed upper 2/21/08 S&W 642 38 special w/ CT grips (HD& CCW) Upper ALEX ARMS 19.5" 6.5 GRENDEL-order 9/9/08

06-26-2008, 11:56 PM	#13
The Tengu XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,771	If I could do it, I'd have a S&W M&P .40 full size/compact combo. __________________ The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. United States Code, Title 10, section 311, paragraph (a)

06-27-2008, 12:24 AM	#14
Reno82 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,247	danp... if its not jammed... pull the trigger twice then tap and rack and back to the fight. __________________ XD-45acp Service (Match Gun I changed it to a compact for CCW... did a grip chop on it) Ruger Mark III 22/45 Kimber SS Custom Target II 10mm Walther G22 (FUN GUN) XD-45acp Tactical (Match Gun II; upgraded the bbl from PistolGear) XD-9 Sub-Compact (Home Defense and CCW) DPMS AR-15: 9mm (1/17/08...) RRA CAR A4 Upper 223/5.56---did a lower bulid 6/3/08 and bought completed upper 2/21/08 S&W 642 38 special w/ CT grips (HD& CCW) Upper ALEX ARMS 19.5" 6.5 GRENDEL-order 9/9/08

07-10-2008, 09:41 AM	#18
awmp XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 145	Are XD45 with safeties worth a luck? I have talked to others that say a safety on a duty weapon is a terrible idea, others say great officer safety if firearm is taken. Thoughts? __________________ "when no one else can or will, U.S.Army MPs always answer the call"

07-10-2008, 12:37 PM	#19
SVThuh XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,042	I was thinking XD40 Service/XD40SC Great combo, mag interchangeability and familarity with the weapon. I like the 40 a bit more than the 9mm too, so I just might be biased a bit. My other option for you would be a Sig 226 in 9mm or .40 and a XDSC of either flavor. The Sig 226 is a world beater in terms of natural point and shoot characteristics, follow up shot accuracy and so on. I have a P228 and P239 combo that I like a lot. The 228 is a tad smaller than the 226, holds 2 less rounds, but the same ergonomics. They are hard to beat. I like the XD and all, but the Sig is just world class! __________________ http://www.gunbanobama.com Springfield : XD40SC, TRP Operator, M1A National Match HS2000 : 9mm Service Sig Sauer : P228, P220, P239 S&W : Mod.39 J frame, S&W99/40 Ruger : P89D, 10/22 Glock : 33 (baby .357SIG) Remington : 870 Express Super Magnum Home Built : AR15 A2, M4gery, VZ24 (fully tacticooled out)

06-27-2008, 02:33 PM	#15
drs1321 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MA Posts: 162	On the 17/26 topic...Our dept. carries Glock 22's and a lot of guys carry the 27 for the same reason.

07-10-2008, 01:26 PM	#20
griz312000 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14	I carried one kind or another of the 1911 .45 for 20 years in law enforcement and it served me well. However, with the newer hi-cap pistols, I think that may very well be the way to go. I just picked up the new XDm .40 and am very impressed...16+1 with another 32 rounds on the duty belt, and the .40's a proven man stopper with the proper ammo. The only problem right now is finding a holster to fit, but I'm sure the big holster makers are already working on it. As far as the BUG, find something that is comfortable to carry and conceal, that you can shoot well, and nothing less than .380. Even the .380 is marginal, but with the advances in bullet technology it is approaching .38 Special performance. I have a little "Elsie Pea" (Ruger LCP) and at 7 yards she'll dump 'em all in the head. Extremely easy to conceal in even a shirt pocket, but safer in a pocket holster that covers the trigger guard. With Hydra-shocks or Gold Dots I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end. Good luck, keep your head down, and come back safely!!!!!!

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