Bump Firing

[bigun]

"ATF News flash any AR owner found in posession of a rubber band is now a fellon". LOL the rubber band helps reset the trigger it in no way acts as a activator or auto sear, tell me how that makes me or anyone else a fellon it still requires the trigger to be pulled for each and every shot, it just allows you to controll the bursts better bump firing.

[JoshXD40]

I have tried it and it worked ok, but I think the rubber band thing should help. I will have to try it next time we go to the range. You better not be trying to hit anything while doing it, from what I have seen... lol Lots of fun, but can get expensive... I always wanted to try on of those trigger add-ons but people say they don't work, so bump firing will have to do....

[Yuppicide]

You may actually be RIGHT about that (I was thinking of shoelaces), but I wouldn't want the ATF to be the judge on the legality of it!

(taken From the net, so beware)

".....They do regulate shoelaces, though.

The is a big difference between the rubber band method and the sting-on-washer method. The reason the ATF considers that string-on-washer method illegal is that you yourself aren't engaging the firearms trigger for each shot of the weapon. Instead, you are pulling the washer. And, since pull of the washer makes the rifle continue to cycle, they consider this a mod that makes the rifle fire full-auto.

As for the rubber band, you ARE engaging the trigger for each shot the weapon fires. It is one trigger pull per shot, just like in bump firing from the hip. What the rubber band does is created dual tension, toward and away from the trigger, that shortens its reset. If you pull trigger all the way back you will only get one shot. It has to be reset and reengaged for EACH and every shot. So, what the rubber band does is facilitate bumpfiring NOT full-auto fire.

For the ATF to "legally" regulate the rubber band method, they would have to enact a new law making illegal for a non-permanent modification to a weapon that facilitates bumpfiring, which right now is not illegal.

*Disclaimer: Don't take any of this as gospel, this just my understanding."

Although, It may still be illegal in states where you cant buy "Trigger-activators" Like My sorry assed state:

CA Penal Code Sec. 12020:

(23) As used in this section, a "multiburst trigger activator" means one of the following devices:

(A) A device designed or redesigned to be attached to a semiautomatic firearm which allows the firearm to discharge two or more shots in a burst by activating the device.

(B) A manual or power-driven trigger activating device constructed and designed so that when attached to a semiautomatic firearm it increases the rate of fire of that firearm.

[gsh341]

Originally Posted by Yuppicide

Um, Yeah! It ALSO MAKES YOU A FELON!

Um... no. The trigger is still pulled once for every round fired and the rubber band actually makes the trigger reset faster.

This doesn't make bump firing illegal, just easier.

A weapon is illegal ONLY if you can fire multiple rounds with only one pull of the trigger and you do not have a tax-stamp for the weapon.

[Mercmar]

I don't see how such an adolescent practice relates to l.e. How does it?

[HTOWN stunna]

i did
YouTube - XD bump fire

[bigun]

Originally Posted by Mercmar

I don't see how such an adolescent practice relates to l.e. How does it?

What cops cant have fun every now and again? We all blow off steam in our own way, I shoot and ride ATV's in the summer months and hunt and ride ATV's the rest of the year. Some spend most of their off duty time in a bottle or chasing women. My wife wouldnt approve of the other past times.

[danp]

Originally Posted by street cruiser

Anyone tried this technique to make a semiauto pistol or rifle fire as though an automatic? There are numerous videos on YouTube covering the subject. I just thought I'd let you guys know what the next gun fad you may encounter with a Darwin Award nominee.

As an LEO, I don't see much point. If I want to shoot "as though an automatic," I'll just draw an M-16, M-14 or MP-5 from the armory and go shoot it.

[street cruiser]

Originally Posted by Mercmar

I don't see how such an adolescent practice relates to l.e. How does it?

I was thinking more along the lines of a possible safety issue for us. I was gauging if the method was easily duplicated. I have talked with a few of my co-workers and they are unaware of bump firing.

[chupacabrachus]

Originally Posted by gsh341

Um... no. The trigger is still pulled once for every round fired and the rubber band actually makes the trigger reset faster...

That's how I see it. The same thing could be achieved from a very powerful trigger spring.