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MILSAPS118 · 04-24-2008, 08:02 PM

I am applying to be a reserve Ofc but have a question about a question on the application. It asks, "Have you been convicted of a misdemeanor, gross misdemeanor, or felony?" Does this include juvenile history or is it referring to adult history?

My adult history is spotless, but back in the day when I was young and dumb, is a little different. Should I check the "yes" box and write my explanation?

**SVThuh** · 04-24-2008, 09:08 PM

I would disclose the juvie info with an explanation. Your records my be sealed, but a background investigator worth any merit will find your Juvie record and if it wasn't disclosed, it could be grounds for disqualification due to withholding of information.

Better to fully disclose and be as honest as possible as opposed to possibly being deemed untrustworthy.

nhill0408 · 04-24-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SVThuh

I would disclose the juvie info with an explanation. Your records my be sealed, but a background investigator worth any merit will find your Juvie record and if it wasn't disclosed, it could be grounds for disqualification due to withholding of information.

Better to fully disclose and be as honest as possible as opposed to possibly being deemed untrustworthy.

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jedi573 · 04-25-2008, 01:24 AM

I agree. Disclose it. Better to admit to it early and leave the decision to them about dismissing it than not telling them and having them find it. Even if they normally would have said, "That's not a big deal," if it looks like you were trying it hide it it'll make it a deal-breaker.

Andy

The Tengu · 04-25-2008, 01:31 AM

The question says "ever" which is like, ever since you've been alive.

Always answer honestly. If you are less than truthful on your application, how is the public/department to believe that you will be honest in court?

MILSAPS118 · 04-25-2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tengu

The question says "ever" which is like, ever since you've been alive.

No....the question does NOT say "Ever", it just asks,"Have you been convicted, etc...etc....." That's why I was wondering if it was referring to adult or juvie history. The question is questionable in itself. Either way I will check "yes" and write in my explanation in the space provided.

The Tengu · 04-26-2008, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MILSAPS118

No....the question does NOT say "Ever", it just asks,"Have you been convicted, etc...etc....." That's why I was wondering if it was referring to adult or juvie history. The question is questionable in itself. Either way I will check "yes" and write in my explanation in the space provided.

Oh, my fault. Answer it however you please.

PWB · 04-28-2008, 04:50 PM

In most jurisdictions a juvenile record is not required to be disclosed and the information in it can not be used against an applicant. The exceptions are usually LE or any employment involving national security. It's best to answer truthfully even though you may not be legally compelled to do so. In many instances the question is simply asked (as with others) just to determine a persons truthfulness in completing an application. Most LEA employment application (even for reserve positions) will contain some language to the effect that failure to disclosed or intentionally omitted information is grounds not to give the applicant any further consideration. It is likely that a juvenile records will not disqualify you, however failing to disclose it might.

BillSXT2002 · 04-28-2008, 09:07 PM

In Ohio, you wouldn't have to. Juveniles are no "convicted," they are "adjudicated." Yes, there is a difference.

Although, I would disclose it if it was my application.

Mercmar · 04-29-2008, 09:40 AM

"Have you been," with no caveat(s) means EVER!!!!

04-24-2008, 08:02 PM	#1
MILSAPS118 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: LAND OF 10K LAKES Posts: 27	Applying for Reserve Police Ofc position Q on application I am applying to be a reserve Ofc but have a question about a question on the application. It asks, "Have you been convicted of a misdemeanor, gross misdemeanor, or felony?" Does this include juvenile history or is it referring to adult history? My adult history is spotless, but back in the day when I was young and dumb, is a little different. Should I check the "yes" box and write my explanation?

04-25-2008, 01:31 AM	#5
The Tengu XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,727	The question says "ever" which is like, ever since you've been alive. Always answer honestly. If you are less than truthful on your application, how is the public/department to believe that you will be honest in court? __________________ The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. United States Code, Title 10, section 311, paragraph (a)

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BillSXT2002 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 240	In Ohio, you wouldn't have to. Juveniles are no "convicted," they are "adjudicated." Yes, there is a difference. Although, I would disclose it if it was my application. __________________ "I often wonder whether we do not rest our hopes too much upon constitutions, upon laws, and upon courts. These are false hopes; believe me, these are false hopes. Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it." -L. Hand

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04-24-2008, 09:08 PM	#2
SVThuh XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 575	I would disclose the juvie info with an explanation. Your records my be sealed, but a background investigator worth any merit will find your Juvie record and if it wasn't disclosed, it could be grounds for disqualification due to withholding of information. Better to fully disclose and be as honest as possible as opposed to possibly being deemed untrustworthy.

04-25-2008, 01:24 AM	#4
jedi573 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Midwest Posts: 150	I agree. Disclose it. Better to admit to it early and leave the decision to them about dismissing it than not telling them and having them find it. Even if they normally would have said, "That's not a big deal," if it looks like you were trying it hide it it'll make it a deal-breaker. Andy

04-28-2008, 04:50 PM	#8
PWB XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Somewhere in Mississippi Posts: 21	In most jurisdictions a juvenile record is not required to be disclosed and the information in it can not be used against an applicant. The exceptions are usually LE or any employment involving national security. It's best to answer truthfully even though you may not be legally compelled to do so. In many instances the question is simply asked (as with others) just to determine a persons truthfulness in completing an application. Most LEA employment application (even for reserve positions) will contain some language to the effect that failure to disclosed or intentionally omitted information is grounds not to give the applicant any further consideration. It is likely that a juvenile records will not disqualify you, however failing to disclose it might.

04-29-2008, 09:40 AM	#10
Mercmar XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,559	"Have you been," with no caveat(s) means EVER!!!!