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**boardsurfer** · 04-21-2008, 12:25 PM

Hey all,

I was just curious about how officers obtain ammunition. I imagine the agency would supply everything you need right? What about range time? Is ammunition provided for that also? Does your department have a private range?

Just wondering.

**Cannibul** · 04-21-2008, 12:29 PM

I think you are going to be really really surprised at how niggardly (and before anyone gets their panties in a bunch hit this link niggardly - Wiktionary It's old Norse) many departments are. It's very common for any LEO that wants to stay sharp to have to purchase their own ammo.

thebigx · 04-21-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibul

I think you are going to be really really surprised at how niggardly (and before anyone gets their panties in a bunch hit this link niggardly - Wiktionary It's old Norse) many departments are. It's very common for any LEO that wants to stay sharp to have to purchase their own ammo.

meager
skimpy
cheap
tightwad
penny pinching
could have been better to use...

my cousin is an officer and i believe he gets LEO discounts for ammo and range time. i can confirm with him next time he's awake during the day.
he works the graveyard shift so i rarely see him. infact i don't think i've seen him once since he's been sworn in... dang!

LUVMYSIGP225 · 04-21-2008, 12:45 PM

My four, local LEO family members and friends ALL have to buy their own ammo to head out to range trips, unless it is a department function or qualifying.

My two FED buddies are rolling in the $hit. They are usually luggin around duffle bags full, when we go plinking.

**boardsurfer** · 04-21-2008, 12:54 PM

Wow, color me surprised. I guess it would get awfully expensive if the whole department had free reign on range ammo.

Broadside · 04-21-2008, 12:58 PM

The dept would provide 2 boxes (100 Rnds) in what ever caliber you carried 9mm, 40 or 45 every month for practice. So I could get 100 in 9mm and 100 in 40.

I knew the armorer very well and most officers only shot before qualification. So it was pretty much unlimited ammo for me. It wasn't uncommon for me to get 500 - 1000 rnds at a time in 9MM or .40. As the armorer got tired of dipping into the closet for me. For rifle ammo I could get 250 rnds 223 a month and that was it.. no more.

I spoke to the armorer a few years ago he said they only give out 1 box a ammo a month and they went to Glock 22's.

**hacker15** · 04-21-2008, 04:37 PM

My department gives me the following:

300 rounds a YEAR for two (2) qualification shoots (and we typically use 250 rounds per shoot!) - I have to make up the difference out of pocket

Since I STRONGLY believe in 'train like you fight', I don't use hard ball or 'target practice' ammo for these shoots - I use JHP (hate to say it, but as cheap as I can find).

60 rounds per year for carry ammo - usually my choice (I get either Hornady TAP or Federal HST)

Any practice ammo comes out of my pocket - 2,000 - 3,000 rounds a year and, yes, I sometimes use hard ball (when I'm really broke!).

Perks? WTF - you won't get many in this area - not with cheap skate admin types (who never hit the streets or carried a side arm for anything other than parade duty!) running the show.....

B Glover · 04-21-2008, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadside

The dept would provide 2 boxes (100 Rnds) in what ever caliber you carried 9mm, 40 or 45 every month for practice. So I could get 100 in 9mm and 100 in 40.

This about it for us. 40 or 45 only though and if you get caught hording ammo you get cut off. We also sign a log at the range showing whe went to shoot.

danp · 04-21-2008, 08:08 PM

I'm actually pretty lucky. I get 200 rounds a month of practice ammo (Winchester White Box) and 50 rounds of duty ammo (Winchester Ranger SXT), free targets and range time.

I also have full access to the armory, including our "training guns." These are guns that are not duty type weapons, but stuff that officers might find on the street. I teach classes with these guns on how to render them safe if encountered on the street, but I also can check these guns out of the armory and take them to the range whenever I want.

Plus since I am also our EOD Officer, I am in charge of our "ammo for destruction." Old evidence ammo and what stuff people turn in for destruction comes to me to be destroyed as I see fit. I am a firm believer in "destruction by design" so I shoot up everything I can.

The Tengu · 04-23-2008, 12:26 AM

We don't have to pay a lane fee or for targets at the department's range. We do have to pay for the practice ammunition.

We are issued three mags worth (+1 for the chamber) of duty ammo each year.

04-21-2008, 12:25 PM	#1
boardsurfer XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Golden, CO Posts: 314	Curious about LEO perks Hey all, I was just curious about how officers obtain ammunition. I imagine the agency would supply everything you need right? What about range time? Is ammunition provided for that also? Does your department have a private range? Just wondering. __________________ "Denial has no survival value" XD45 Service

04-21-2008, 12:45 PM	#4
LUVMYSIGP225 XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Crackron, Ohio Posts: 4,644	My four, local LEO family members and friends ALL have to buy their own ammo to head out to range trips, unless it is a department function or qualifying. My two FED buddies are rolling in the $hit. They are usually luggin around duffle bags full, when we go plinking. __________________ Rest In Peace Officer Josh Miktarian. God bless Holly and Thea.

04-21-2008, 12:54 PM	#5
boardsurfer XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Golden, CO Posts: 314	Wow, color me surprised. I guess it would get awfully expensive if the whole department had free reign on range ammo. __________________ "Denial has no survival value" XD45 Service

04-21-2008, 12:58 PM	#6
Broadside XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,911	The dept would provide 2 boxes (100 Rnds) in what ever caliber you carried 9mm, 40 or 45 every month for practice. So I could get 100 in 9mm and 100 in 40. I knew the armorer very well and most officers only shot before qualification. So it was pretty much unlimited ammo for me. It wasn't uncommon for me to get 500 - 1000 rnds at a time in 9MM or .40. As the armorer got tired of dipping into the closet for me. For rifle ammo I could get 250 rnds 223 a month and that was it.. no more. I spoke to the armorer a few years ago he said they only give out 1 box a ammo a month and they went to Glock 22's. __________________ XD - 9 Subcompact XD - 357 Service w/ SA Custom Carry Pro Pkg SA - Mil Spec 1911 A1

04-21-2008, 04:37 PM	#7
hacker15 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 3,211	My department gives me the following: 300 rounds a YEAR for two (2) qualification shoots (and we typically use 250 rounds per shoot!) - I have to make up the difference out of pocket Since I STRONGLY believe in 'train like you fight', I don't use hard ball or 'target practice' ammo for these shoots - I use JHP (hate to say it, but as cheap as I can find). 60 rounds per year for carry ammo - usually my choice (I get either Hornady TAP or Federal HST) Any practice ammo comes out of my pocket - 2,000 - 3,000 rounds a year and, yes, I sometimes use hard ball (when I'm really broke!). Perks? WTF - you won't get many in this area - not with cheap skate admin types (who never hit the streets or carried a side arm for anything other than parade duty!) running the show..... __________________ If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man. Mark Twain

04-21-2008, 08:08 PM	#9
danp XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 1,267	I'm actually pretty lucky. I get 200 rounds a month of practice ammo (Winchester White Box) and 50 rounds of duty ammo (Winchester Ranger SXT), free targets and range time. I also have full access to the armory, including our "training guns." These are guns that are not duty type weapons, but stuff that officers might find on the street. I teach classes with these guns on how to render them safe if encountered on the street, but I also can check these guns out of the armory and take them to the range whenever I want. Plus since I am also our EOD Officer, I am in charge of our "ammo for destruction." Old evidence ammo and what stuff people turn in for destruction comes to me to be destroyed as I see fit. I am a firm believer in "destruction by design" so I shoot up everything I can. __________________ God made cops so that firefighters could have heros too. "There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." - Ernest Hemingway

04-23-2008, 12:26 AM	#10
The Tengu XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,727	We don't have to pay a lane fee or for targets at the department's range. We do have to pay for the practice ammunition. We are issued three mags worth (+1 for the chamber) of duty ammo each year. __________________ The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. United States Code, Title 10, section 311, paragraph (a)

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