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Old 04-10-2008, 03:25 AM   #21
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For those of you who say "its concealed and I'm not telling them," just remember that if you lean over to the glove box and I see the butt of your gun print, when you sit up you will have my .45 screwed into your ear.

If you are legally carrying, what's the problem with giving us a heads up? Bad guys don't tell us they are carrying, we all know that. If you tell us you are legally carrying, we are more likely to relax a bit.
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I'm with you on this thing. The cops are not the enemy. They are the good guys. Letting them know that I am carrying is simply telling them that I am on the good guys team!
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I'm with you on this thing. The cops are not the enemy. They are the good guys. Letting them know that I am carrying is simply telling them that I am on the good guys team!
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Old 04-10-2008, 11:24 AM   #23
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Okay first off tell me you have a firearm in the vehicle, first off I am not caught off guard and you are being up front. I have run into a few of these in Missouri. In MO you can carry concealed in the vehicle all day long everyone. If there is a weapon in the vehicle and something doesnt feel right and the firearm not on your person then I may remove you from the vehicle and bring you to mine now the option of the threat is gone. If you have it on you and you do not have a CCW then I may pull you out. remove the firearm, unload it and run the SN just to make sure it is not stolen. That is about the worst thing I can see me doing if you are legal and legally aloud to have a firearm. There are alot of what ifs but that is the worst, remove, unload, run SN and return unloaded and ask you not to load it until I leave. Just my safety and my opinion.
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Old 04-10-2008, 01:25 PM   #24
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What I am asking is, if I am perfectly legal in all respects, what COULD a police officer do?
Over-react and shoot you.

The point is to give them information that will keep THEM calm. Cops aren't perfect, so assuming that the law protects you may only help your heirs in the civil court case afterwards.
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Old 04-13-2008, 06:01 AM   #25
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Well I guess I'll chime in here.
I was stopped just this past morning by the NCHP. I was doing 15 over on the highway. I know it was stupid but.....it happened.

Anyway, here is what happened,

Trooper: Drivers license and registration please.

Me: Officer here is my license and my chl, my weapon is in a holster on my right side.

Trooper: I'll need your registration, any reason you were going so fast?
Me: Well, is there any excuse that would get me out of the ticket? (we both laugh a bit and he says no) I tell him I just got caught up in the moment.

Trooper: okay, sit tight

Trooper: I wrote you for 15 over the limit, I could have wrote you for 20 over. You can go over to the DA's office and work something out with them to keep the points off your license and avoid insurance surcharges.


There was no swat team or weapons drawn,things were nice and smooth.

There goes my clean license
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I live in El Paso, Texas and I have been stopped by El Paso Police and Texas State Patrol while carrying. In each case I presented my driver's license and concealed carry permit, as required in Texas. The officers asked if I was carrying. I said yes and nothing else was said about it.

I have read in other forums about law enforcement in other states taking the firearm back to the police car and unloading it, then returning it and the ammunition after the stop. All that gun handling seems like an unnecessary safety hazard to me. I'm glad I'm in Texas.

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For those of you who say "its concealed and I'm not telling them," just remember that if you lean over to the glove box and I see the butt of your gun print, when you sit up you will have my .45 screwed into your ear.

If you are legally carrying, what's the problem with giving us a heads up? Bad guys don't tell us they are carrying, we all know that. If you tell us you are legally carrying, we are more likely to relax a bit.

My thoughts exactly, if I make a traffic stop and you are legally carrying concealed whats wrong with letting me know? If I see a gun and have not been told that you are legally concealed then you are going to have a problem, A problem that could been avoided by just telling me from the start. From a LEO standpoint I think it should be mandatory in all states to be required to tell a LEO from the onset of contact that you are carring concealed.
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Old 04-25-2008, 10:36 PM   #28
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I have never been pulled over with my CCW yet and never hope to. If I were I would definitely let the officer know. I have a question though. Do I have to give the officer my gun? In AZ you car is your domain like your house. If an officer came to my house and I told him I had a gun on me I wouldn't have to give it to him. What makes it any different being in a vehicle?
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Old 04-25-2008, 10:48 PM   #29
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I really wouldn't argue if the office asks for you gun. It's for their protection and yours. According to the note that came with my CCW, you don't have to give it to them by law (in AZ), but it's 'suggested'.
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:13 PM   #30
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I have talk to a couple SO deputies and they all have said they wouldn't ask for it but they would like to know its there. I usually see them on a daily basis when I am working.
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