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zarcher · 03-28-2008, 02:46 PM

The military will give waivers for past drug use. My question is, will LE?

I would like to change careers and have had some shady dealings in the past, no record but would have to tell during the poli test.

GasTiresOil · 03-28-2008, 08:34 PM

It depends what kind of drug, use or sale. it also depends on where you're applying to. Some places are more forgiving than others.

nhill0408 · 03-28-2008, 08:45 PM

Two factors come into play...Severity, and Recency...

The recency is fairly self-explanatory. The longer it's been since you used, the better off you are.

The severity is what GasTiresOil already alluded to, it depends on whether you were a one or two time user, an addict, or a trafficker. It also depends on the drug. MJ-Not a huge deal. LSD or Meth-Good luck.

Can't hurt to apply though, the worst they can do is say "no".

UtahConcealer · 03-28-2008, 09:20 PM

i know for my agency, it was nothing within the past 5 years...

GasTiresOil · 04-01-2008, 05:05 AM

Smoking an L back in high school with a few friends is different than smoking an L in your stolen car before walking into the polygraph. *true story

yocan · 04-05-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GasTiresOil

Smoking an L back in high school with a few friends is different than smoking an L in your stolen car before walking into the polygraph. *true story

Wow

jcabin · 04-05-2008, 08:43 PM

is there really any way they can tell? i havent done drugs in a couple years now but back in high school i smoked my stuff and tried mushrooms once.. never did acid or anything that would classify as a narcotic.. i mean ive been told by everyone including LEO's just to lie about it, say i tried it once or twice, and thats it, but nothing else about anything else.. i wonder what they can do about your drug use history and how important it is?

UtahConcealer · 04-06-2008, 08:17 AM

just keep in mind that your application will be on file forever and if it ever comes up your certification will more than likely be revoked. honestly, if your thinking about lying on your application you might want to rethink the job. the last thing our profession needs are more people with integrity issues...you'd be surprised what the investigators that do your backgrounds can / will find out. best thing to do is find out what time lapses they are looking for and wait till then to apply. I was just over the five year mark and was accepted to the academy w/o a problem. just my .02

jcabin · 04-06-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by UtahConcealer

just keep in mind that your application will be on file forever and if it ever comes up your certification will more than likely be revoked. honestly, if your thinking about lying on your application you might want to rethink the job. the last thing our profession needs are more people with integrity issues...you'd be surprised what the investigators that do your backgrounds can / will find out. best thing to do is find out what time lapses they are looking for and wait till then to apply. I was just over the five year mark and was accepted to the academy w/o a problem. just my .02

i can assure you i have no integrity issues, and by the time i get my bachelors degree it will have been 7 years since ive touched any drugs.. if lieing is necessary than so be it, im not going to let some minor drug use as a youth effect something ive wanted to do since i was a child. besides, youre going to be kidding yourself if you believe most cops have never tried marijuana, at the least.

Harris · 04-06-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jcabin

i can assure you i have no integrity issues, and by the time i get my bachelors degree it will have been 7 years since ive touched any drugs.. if lieing is necessary than so be it, im not going to let some minor drug use as a youth effect something ive wanted to do since i was a child. besides, youre going to be kidding yourself if you believe most cops have never tried marijuana, at the least.

I'm sorry, but to say you have "no integrity issues" and then say "if lieing (sic) is necessary than (sic) so be it", points out you have a HUGE problem understanding the level of integrity this field REQUIRES. Unless of course you mean you would have no issue with the fact that you lack integrity.

As others have pointed out, your stated drug use would not disqualify you. However, lying about it would and should. A lie would likely go undetected, but if your background investigator talks to the "right" person, you would be disqualified, then barred from ever re-applying.

Harris

03-28-2008, 02:46 PM	#1
zarcher XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 81	Hello all..... The military will give waivers for past drug use. My question is, will LE? I would like to change careers and have had some shady dealings in the past, no record but would have to tell during the poli test. __________________ "Don't criticize them; they are what we would be under the same circumstances"-- President Lincoln "Respect is earned not given"

03-28-2008, 09:20 PM	#4
UtahConcealer XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: So. Ut Posts: 3,565 Blog Entries: 4	i know for my agency, it was nothing within the past 5 years... __________________ UtahConcealer Husband, Father, and LEO Classics, not textbooks Mentors, not professors Inspire, not require Structure time, not content Quality, not conformity Simplicity, not complexity You, not them -unknown

04-06-2008, 08:17 AM	#8
UtahConcealer XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: So. Ut Posts: 3,565 Blog Entries: 4	just keep in mind that your application will be on file forever and if it ever comes up your certification will more than likely be revoked. honestly, if your thinking about lying on your application you might want to rethink the job. the last thing our profession needs are more people with integrity issues...you'd be surprised what the investigators that do your backgrounds can / will find out. best thing to do is find out what time lapses they are looking for and wait till then to apply. I was just over the five year mark and was accepted to the academy w/o a problem. just my .02 __________________ UtahConcealer Husband, Father, and LEO Classics, not textbooks Mentors, not professors Inspire, not require Structure time, not content Quality, not conformity Simplicity, not complexity You, not them -unknown

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03-28-2008, 08:34 PM	#2
GasTiresOil XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 14	It depends what kind of drug, use or sale. it also depends on where you're applying to. Some places are more forgiving than others.

03-28-2008, 08:45 PM	#3
nhill0408 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern Texas Posts: 336	Two factors come into play...Severity, and Recency... The recency is fairly self-explanatory. The longer it's been since you used, the better off you are. The severity is what GasTiresOil already alluded to, it depends on whether you were a one or two time user, an addict, or a trafficker. It also depends on the drug. MJ-Not a huge deal. LSD or Meth-Good luck. Can't hurt to apply though, the worst they can do is say "no".

04-01-2008, 05:05 AM	#5
GasTiresOil XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 14	Smoking an L back in high school with a few friends is different than smoking an L in your stolen car before walking into the polygraph. *true story

04-05-2008, 08:43 PM	#7
jcabin XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 533	is there really any way they can tell? i havent done drugs in a couple years now but back in high school i smoked my stuff and tried mushrooms once.. never did acid or anything that would classify as a narcotic.. i mean ive been told by everyone including LEO's just to lie about it, say i tried it once or twice, and thats it, but nothing else about anything else.. i wonder what they can do about your drug use history and how important it is?