Can It Get Any Easier Than This?

[UtahConcealer]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

As funny as that is, that's a great example of the police taking advantage of an idiot and filing charges. Sure, he deserves them not only for having the drugs, but for being that stupid, but c'mon, that's practically entrapment.

oh geez...give me a break. Just cause this guy was an idiot doesn't mean that it was entrapment. Entrapment is inducing a person to commit an offense that they normally would have not committed. This guy was selling large amounts of marijuana and the officers did not make him do that. Hes the dumb a$$ that came and basically confessed to doing so. Two druggies arrested, thats fine in my book.

[opskmallory]

Originally Posted by UtahConcealer

haha, i heard about that one mallory - good stuff. Hey were you working this afternoon? We were stuck in that accident at 800 N on 15 Southbound...looked like a pretty bad one. 2 MPH for miles...only 3 weeks left at POST!! wooohooooo!!!!

Nope; working graveyards right now Sun-Wed. But I did log onto our computer to look at a report and saw it on the CAD. Initial reports had as many as 10 cars involved. I'd hate to be the trooper that wrote that DI-9.

Congrats on making it down to three weeks. Let me know how they go.

[jtkratzer]

Originally Posted by UtahConcealer

oh geez...give me a break. Just cause this guy was an idiot doesn't mean that it was entrapment. Entrapment is inducing a person to commit an offense that they normally would have not committed. This guy was selling large amounts of marijuana and the officers did not make him do that. Hes the dumb a$$ that came and basically confessed to doing so. Two druggies arrested, thats fine in my book.

Take it easy....easy, easy...we're calm now....good. I was just saying I don't like to see stunts like this pulled. I'm glad the guy got busted, hopefully he'll either kick the habit...just interesting...hey bud, we caught the guy, can you come in and identify the stuff...

yup...that's the stuff.

Good, you're under arrest.

WTF?



Oh well, I'm not mad or upset, just seems shady to "trick" someone like that.

[UtahConcealer]

well, the utah statute is written that it is illegal to posses marijuana, so, he was in violation of utah law therefore he got arrested. if it hadn't have been that way, he would have been busted another time, he was just dumb lol. sorry to get all worked up lol.

[UtahConcealer]

Originally Posted by opskmallory

Nope; working graveyards right now Sun-Wed. But I did log onto our computer to look at a report and saw it on the CAD. Initial reports had as many as 10 cars involved. I'd hate to be the trooper that wrote that DI-9.

Congrats on making it down to three weeks. Let me know how they go.

Ahh, graves...i'm so glad my agency works till 2am only lol. After that I get woken up though which sucks...yeah, there was one car that was REAL bad. The trunk was in the back seat, engine in the front, looked REALLY bad...we just did accident diagrams this week and holy cow, I woulda hated to have done that one...

[opskmallory]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

WTF?



Oh well, I'm not mad or upset, just seems shady to "trick" someone like that.

WTF?

Trick somebody? We wouldn't be doing our jobs if we didn't try to give him his property back. And we don't have a case if the stolen property cannot be positively identified. And we wouldn't be doing our job if we didn't arrest drug sellers. So really, what it comes down to is we did our job. If they guy had half a brain, he would have said "nope, I'm not coming to ID it. You can just get rid of it and forget the whole thing" thus saving himself a trip to jail. Better yet, he could have just not reported the burglary at all, and chalked up the loss to the cost of doing business. Either way, our department did nothing shady, tricky, entrapping, or anything other just regular old police work. I don't think any other department would have done anything different. It just would not make sense; much like your comments.

[jtkratzer]

Originally Posted by UtahConcealer

well, the utah statute is written that it is illegal to posses marijuana, so, he was in violation of utah law therefore he got arrested. if it hadn't have been that way, he would have been busted another time, he was just dumb lol. sorry to get all worked up lol.

No issues here, I know where you're coming from, I agree he'd get busted as well and I'm fine with it.

[jlpskydive]

They call it Dope for a reason....

[hacker15]

Originally Posted by opskmallory

Here's one that's even better. I had the privilege of working this night. We laughed for hours upon hours at work when this guy came in.

ksl.com - Orem Man Reports Marijuana Stolen

Hey, man - you got a 'two-fer'! Outstanding!

[hacker15]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

Take it easy....easy, easy...we're calm now....good. I was just saying I don't like to see stunts like this pulled. I'm glad the guy got busted, hopefully he'll either kick the habit...just interesting...hey bud, we caught the guy, can you come in and identify the stuff...

yup...that's the stuff.

Good, you're under arrest.

WTF?



Oh well, I'm not mad or upset, just seems shady to "trick" someone like that.

Hate to tell you, but the law is the law - if it went down like the report said it did, they had a legal bust on two bone headed individuals. As far as these clowns 'kicking the habit', it's not the job of the LEO to facilitate that - they either want to (and will), or they don't (and won't).

There is no trick involved here - the guy reported illegal drugs that were in his possession as stolen. He then identified the recovered drugs as his, thereby admitting to possession of a controlled substance.

Would it have made you feel any better if the LEOs had given his stuff back to him and he sold them to one of your kids? Would that have met your test of 'fairness'?

It's this outlook by citizens on the outside, trying to apply their own ideas of 'fairness' without any real understanding of the job of the LEO that makes that job so difficult.

Granted - you're entitled to an opinion on any given subject. But, please - try to look at this from the standpoint of the guys and girls out there doing their level best to get trash like this off the streets and out of the lives of people like you. While 'tricks' are part of their stock in trade in dealing with dirtbags like this, there's no trick here. Just good solid police work that resulted in two clowns off the street......