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matlt · 03-23-2008, 10:56 AM

So I'm driving home from a friend's house on the highway at 2 am when I see flashing lights behind me. 80 in a 65. I knew he pulled me over for speeding and started thinking about what I would say. He comes up the passenger window and the first thing he asks is how I'm doing and where I'm heading. Second thing he asks is if I have any weapons in the car. I tell him I have a ccw and a pistol in my glove box. He doesn't say anything, but reaches in through my window, opens the glove box, and takes the pistol. I assume he set it on my roof. He asks for my driver's license and takes it and the pistol back to his car. I get the gun back with the slide locked back, magazine separated, and out of the holster. It resulted in just a warning. I'm a little appalled by his actions, and it was fairly obvious he had at least a few years experience under his belt. Is this normal or expected in any kind of way?

cajunautoxer · 03-23-2008, 11:30 AM

what exactly are you appalled by?

matlt · 03-23-2008, 11:54 AM

The way he grabbed my gun without saying anything at all. Cant be normal. It's obvious he didn't feel threatened or anything. If I even tried to reach for it from the passenger seat he'd have time to draw his gun, disassemble and clean it and put it back together before I even opened the glove box.

ElJimmyStrappo · 03-23-2008, 11:59 AM

Did he take all the ammo out of the mag for you too?

What state do you live in?

I personally would never have reached for it unless I obtained permission from you first. Depending on the situation I probably would have pulled the gun out of the vehicle, by permission, until the stop was over.

I also would not have pulled the mag, locked the slide back, etc.

If you wanted to, you could play the "Unreasonable Search and Seizure" card. Unless going 15 mph over the limit is a crime in your state, he technically conducted an unreasonable search upon your property.

matlt · 03-23-2008, 12:05 PM

I live in AZ, and I was hardly in a bad area of town. I drive a corolla, so other than being black it doesn't stick out at all. And I was as polite as possible with him as always. So it's all a little bit odd. It makes me wonder what would have happened if I had one concealed on me. Had the 1911 that day so it goes in the glove box while driving. And it's 20+ over to count as criminal speeding here.

ACWeller · 03-23-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ElJimmyStrappo

Unless going 15 mph over the limit is a crime in your state.

A crime? Seriously?! Speed limits are just that... limits. In Michigan 15 over is reckless driving has a hefty fine and a couple of points.
Frankly, if I were the officer I would have reacted in the very same manor.

ElJimmyStrappo · 03-23-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ACWeller

A crime? Seriously?! Speed limits are just that... limits. In Michigan 15 over is reckless driving has a hefty fine and a couple of points.
Frankly, if I were the officer I would have reacted in the very same manor.

15 mph over is a crime in Michigan? Dang, I've let people go on warnings that were going that fast.

jtkratzer · 03-23-2008, 07:17 PM

I don't think it was appropriate for him to reach in your car and open the glove box without your permission...

astral · 03-24-2008, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by matlt

I live in AZ, and I was hardly in a bad area of town.

Just curious, but what agency pulled you over?

bigun · 03-24-2008, 01:37 AM

I dont know about Arizona but in Iowa you would have been in Violation of the law. If the pistol isnt in a holster and on your person here it is supposed to be cased and unloaded. If it had been on your hip he probably would just have told you to keep your hands on the steering wheel and to not make any sudden movements.

03-23-2008, 10:56 AM	#1
matlt XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 83	My first time being pulled over for speeding, awkward situation So I'm driving home from a friend's house on the highway at 2 am when I see flashing lights behind me. 80 in a 65. I knew he pulled me over for speeding and started thinking about what I would say. He comes up the passenger window and the first thing he asks is how I'm doing and where I'm heading. Second thing he asks is if I have any weapons in the car. I tell him I have a ccw and a pistol in my glove box. He doesn't say anything, but reaches in through my window, opens the glove box, and takes the pistol. I assume he set it on my roof. He asks for my driver's license and takes it and the pistol back to his car. I get the gun back with the slide locked back, magazine separated, and out of the holster. It resulted in just a warning. I'm a little appalled by his actions, and it was fairly obvious he had at least a few years experience under his belt. Is this normal or expected in any kind of way?

03-23-2008, 11:59 AM	#4
ElJimmyStrappo XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SE Idaho Posts: 1,316	Did he take all the ammo out of the mag for you too? What state do you live in? I personally would never have reached for it unless I obtained permission from you first. Depending on the situation I probably would have pulled the gun out of the vehicle, by permission, until the stop was over. I also would not have pulled the mag, locked the slide back, etc. If you wanted to, you could play the "Unreasonable Search and Seizure" card. Unless going 15 mph over the limit is a crime in your state, he technically conducted an unreasonable search upon your property. __________________ The Carry: Springfield XD 9 Service - Crossbreed Supertuck & DGR with #16 and #22 springs. The Tack Driver: Sako Vixen L461 .222 Rifle with Bushnell 4X Scope A real tack driver! The Fun Gun: Marlin .22 LR with Bushnell 7X Scope The best weapon anyone can have: a brain. "The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental." -John Steinbeck "Beware the man who owns just one gun, he will know how to use it." Last edited by ElJimmyStrappo : 03-23-2008 at 12:02 PM.

03-23-2008, 12:05 PM	#5
matlt XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 83	I live in AZ, and I was hardly in a bad area of town. I drive a corolla, so other than being black it doesn't stick out at all. And I was as polite as possible with him as always. So it's all a little bit odd. It makes me wonder what would have happened if I had one concealed on me. Had the 1911 that day so it goes in the glove box while driving. And it's 20+ over to count as criminal speeding here. Last edited by matlt : 03-23-2008 at 12:10 PM.

03-24-2008, 01:37 AM	#10
bigun XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern Iowa Posts: 2,527	I dont know about Arizona but in Iowa you would have been in Violation of the law. If the pistol isnt in a holster and on your person here it is supposed to be cased and unloaded. If it had been on your hip he probably would just have told you to keep your hands on the steering wheel and to not make any sudden movements. __________________ Remington Rand 1911A1, Kimber Pro CDP 2, Kimber Custom Target, Ruger mark2 Govt model with Bushnell Holo site, Beretta 92D 9mm, Kahr K-40, Coming soon Kimber Warrior or Springfield Operator.

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03-23-2008, 11:30 AM	#2
cajunautoxer XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seabrook Posts: 238	what exactly are you appalled by?

03-23-2008, 11:54 AM	#3
matlt XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 83	The way he grabbed my gun without saying anything at all. Cant be normal. It's obvious he didn't feel threatened or anything. If I even tried to reach for it from the passenger seat he'd have time to draw his gun, disassemble and clean it and put it back together before I even opened the glove box.

03-23-2008, 07:17 PM	#8
jtkratzer XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lancaster Co., PA Posts: 16,291	I don't think it was appropriate for him to reach in your car and open the glove box without your permission...