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x_out86 · 03-11-2008, 07:08 PM

Now I know it has been said before and will be said again but....lets always remember to do good searches.

Here is just one more reason to remember to do so:

SAP CAP This standard baseball cap can be used as a blackjack or sap. Just use the bill as the handle and the cap as an impact weapon. The secret of the Sap Cap is the pocket of a unique impact material that is 110% the density of lead and will not rust. Velcro adjustment. Sugg. Retail: $59.99

I have not seen these until now it was posted on a Wisconsin LEO only officer safety website (WILENET for those WI LEO's who can access it). I know that we have always been taught to remove hats during searches for the obvious reasons of being able to conceal contraband, weapons, drugs, etc....But lets also keep in mind that anything could be a weapon and keep this in mind when we are dealing with suspects before they are cuffed and being searched. Maybe someday one of us will be the unlucky person that has somebody attempt to try out their "Sap Cap" on.

Stay safe,

Brian

**Prezents** · 03-11-2008, 07:13 PM

Wow, Great "heads up"
Thank you

street cruiser · 03-11-2008, 11:36 PM

I've seen the button on a ball cap crack a windshield. An officer was swatting at a bug in the patrol car with his cap when it happened. I would imagine that would hurt like hell if that was a skull being his. Thanks for the heads up.

HBear · 03-12-2008, 07:31 AM

They just keep coming up with stuff like this. Lovely. Not.

HBear

ElJimmyStrappo · 03-12-2008, 08:13 AM

Wow, thank you.

jedi573 · 03-12-2008, 11:55 AM

Thanks for the heads-up.

Andy

The Tengu · 03-12-2008, 04:07 PM

Thanks, I hadn't seen that yet.

kayl · 03-12-2008, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedi573

Thanks for the heads-up.

Good pun

WILENET is good stuff

jedi573 · 03-13-2008, 08:11 PM

Thanks.

A few years back I was in charge of putting together those sorts of bulletins for my department and we came across some crazy stuff. Will definitely be something to keep in mind when asking a suspect to remove a hat.

Andy

**hacker15** · 03-14-2008, 06:57 AM

Took one away from a guy trying to go into court with it about 6 months ago. When I draw outside duty (scanning people going into court), I always make them take their hat off and put it with their other stuff on the belt before they go through the scanner. Then I hand them back the hat with their stuff. When I picked this one up, it felt strange. These hats may LOOK like a normal one, but they're a lot heavier.

Saps, slaps (or anything that can be used as one) are illegal in NY (like most anything that can be used to defend yourself - wouldn't want to hurt the poor misunderstood perps, now would we?????).

03-11-2008, 07:08 PM	#1
x_out86 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 519	Lets remember to do good searches Now I know it has been said before and will be said again but....lets always remember to do good searches. Here is just one more reason to remember to do so: SAP CAP This standard baseball cap can be used as a blackjack or sap. Just use the bill as the handle and the cap as an impact weapon. The secret of the Sap Cap is the pocket of a unique impact material that is 110% the density of lead and will not rust. Velcro adjustment. Sugg. Retail: $59.99 I have not seen these until now it was posted on a Wisconsin LEO only officer safety website (WILENET for those WI LEO's who can access it). I know that we have always been taught to remove hats during searches for the obvious reasons of being able to conceal contraband, weapons, drugs, etc....But lets also keep in mind that anything could be a weapon and keep this in mind when we are dealing with suspects before they are cuffed and being searched. Maybe someday one of us will be the unlucky person that has somebody attempt to try out their "Sap Cap" on. Stay safe, Brian __________________ Hellen Keller: I long to accomplish a great and noble tasks, but it is my chief duty to accomplish humble tasks as though they were great and noble. The world is moved along, not only by the mighty shoves of its heroes, but also by the aggregate of the tiny pushes of each honest worker. Bruce Lee: Showing off is the fool's idea of glory.

03-11-2008, 07:13 PM	#2
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03-11-2008, 11:36 PM	#3
street cruiser XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 164	I've seen the button on a ball cap crack a windshield. An officer was swatting at a bug in the patrol car with his cap when it happened. I would imagine that would hurt like hell if that was a skull being his. Thanks for the heads up. __________________ XD 45 ACP Driver Olympic Arms K3B Kel-Tec P3-AT Taurus 450 Total Titanium Maverick 88 Security >>>>Perseverate in Pugna<<<< 'Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.' From a Texas A&M student

03-12-2008, 08:13 AM	#5
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03-12-2008, 04:07 PM	#7
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03-12-2008, 07:31 AM	#4
HBear XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 25	They just keep coming up with stuff like this. Lovely. Not. HBear

03-12-2008, 11:55 AM	#6
jedi573 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Midwest Posts: 144	Thanks for the heads-up. Andy

03-13-2008, 08:11 PM	#9
jedi573 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Midwest Posts: 144	Thanks. A few years back I was in charge of putting together those sorts of bulletins for my department and we came across some crazy stuff. Will definitely be something to keep in mind when asking a suspect to remove a hat. Andy

03-14-2008, 06:57 AM	#10
hacker15 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 3,128	Took one away from a guy trying to go into court with it about 6 months ago. When I draw outside duty (scanning people going into court), I always make them take their hat off and put it with their other stuff on the belt before they go through the scanner. Then I hand them back the hat with their stuff. When I picked this one up, it felt strange. These hats may LOOK like a normal one, but they're a lot heavier. Saps, slaps (or anything that can be used as one) are illegal in NY (like most anything that can be used to defend yourself - wouldn't want to hurt the poor misunderstood perps, now would we?????). __________________ If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man. Mark Twain

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