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**DanTheEldest** · 09-18-2007, 04:05 PM

Really damn sad.....the only plus is that it looks like we won't have to bother with a trial. Detectives are fairly sure the POS responsible was killed a short distance away....

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/s....e74d4d20.html

RIP Officer Erfle, and prayers sent for the family and fellow officers. This city just seems to keep getting more and more violent.

Bilt4Comfort · 09-18-2007, 05:02 PM

I just heard about this on the way home today. Stopped for jaywalking but likely had a rap sheet a mile long. Tragic.

This city has far outgrown my love for it. I've been here since '76, but the time has come for me to move on.

God speed.

**beardman2** · 09-18-2007, 06:42 PM

I was listening to the radio as this happened. Sounds like swat took the SOB out.

**PackerfanXD** · 09-18-2007, 06:51 PM

So sad. Tragic.

zac07 · 09-18-2007, 06:59 PM

It is sad to hear that we have buried 3 officers in the last week.

Bree · 09-19-2007, 03:27 AM

RIP Officer Erfle. God bless you and your family. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten.

Bilt4Comfort · 09-19-2007, 03:51 PM

Well...this will come as a shock...but it turns out that the asshole was an illegal alien who had been deported a year ago for a theft conviction. They should have dragged his ass behind a horse with a rope around his feet all the way back to the border, rather than put him on a bus.

I hate that I harbor so much hatred for this particular group of people, because I'm not one to hate. But I seriously doubt I would shed a single teardrop if every IA ended up just like that scumbag.

Hope he has a nice trip home in his frickin' pine box, cuz I know he ain't comin' back again.

Hmmm...pine box instead of a bus works for me too.

lobster_roboto · 09-19-2007, 04:32 PM

What the crap... He had a MISDEMEANOR WARRANT?

What makes these people think that killing anyone just to not go to jail for something like that is a good idea.

I simply can not belive someone would do something like that...

To bad the "victim" in the car he stole wasn't carrying....

At least he is dead... Justice....

Bilt4Comfort · 09-19-2007, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobster_roboto

What the crap... He had a MISDEMEANOR WARRANT?

What makes these people think that killing anyone just to not go to jail for something like that is a good idea.

I simply can not belive someone would do something like that...

To bad the "victim" in the car he stole wasn't carrying....

At least he is dead... Justice....

A misdemeanor warrant AND a concealed weapon that would have not gone over too well with the judge I guess is what he figured.

Dead is good in his case.

**DanTheEldest** · 09-19-2007, 04:37 PM

Here's what I found from another source on my local AZ forum:

"The man didn't have identification but gave officers a name and birth date that Erfle ran through a police computer. That search turned up a misdemeanor warrant for shoplifting out of Tucson.

Police would later find out the man hadn't given his real name. Martinez likely used an alias because he was trying to hide the fact he had felony warrants for aggravated assault and false imprisonment, stemming from a 2006 domestic-violence incident.

But the officers didn't know any of that and tried to arrest him on the misdemeanor warrant.

That's when Martinez shoved Erfle to the ground, pulled a gun and fired multiple times. Police said it all happened in a matter of seconds."

Multiple felony warrants + having already been deported once would make somebody fight. Yeah...they're just here to work....whatever.

09-18-2007, 04:05 PM	#1
DanTheEldest XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,266	Phoenix has lost another of our finest Really damn sad.....the only plus is that it looks like we won't have to bother with a trial. Detectives are fairly sure the POS responsible was killed a short distance away.... http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/s....e74d4d20.html RIP Officer Erfle, and prayers sent for the family and fellow officers. This city just seems to keep getting more and more violent. __________________ The AK-47: Designed to be field-stripped and used effectively by a half-drunk, half-frozen illiterate conscript who found it buried in Mother Russia's mud after last year's Regiment exercises. SOP: retrieve from ground, pee in action, cycle bolt, go back to work. I cannot and will not recant anything, for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. Here I stand, I can do no other, so help me God. --Martin Luther

09-18-2007, 05:02 PM	#2
Bilt4Comfort XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Desert Southwest Posts: 326	I just heard about this on the way home today. Stopped for jaywalking but likely had a rap sheet a mile long. Tragic. This city has far outgrown my love for it. I've been here since '76, but the time has come for me to move on. God speed. __________________ Rem870Tac SA XD40 SC Taurus M608 Henry.22 You cannot legislate morality, and banning inanimate objects will never substitute for personal responsibility. Banning and limiting things merely makes them profitable to criminals via laws of supply and demand.

09-18-2007, 06:42 PM	#3
beardman2 XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,948	I was listening to the radio as this happened. Sounds like swat took the SOB out. __________________ - He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself. ~Thomas Paine I will not be involved with the dreams of angry men. Founding Documents Freedom isn't free: http://www.anysoldier.com

09-18-2007, 06:51 PM	#4
PackerfanXD XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ground zero of the invasion Posts: 6,816 Blog Entries: 1	So sad. Tragic. __________________ The wealthiest nation in the world with the mightiest army man has ever assembled could not stop them. Mexican 300 http://www.break.com/index/mexican-300.html An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject. -Author unknown.

09-19-2007, 03:27 AM	#6
Bree XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 2,853 Blog Entries: 5	RIP Officer Erfle. God bless you and your family. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten. __________________ Shoot Straight and Ride Safe! Bree XD .45 Compact -- Ruger SP-101 .357 Mag. -- Keltec P3AT .380 Rock River Arms 20" Varmint A4 AR-15 w/4-16x56mm MilDot Ruger 10/22 Black Stainless Mossberg 590 Mariner 12 Ga w/Knoxx SpecOps Harley Davidson Dyna Wide Glide Patriot Guard Rider Iron Butt Association Member The 60's Can't Die As Long As I Won't Leave Them!!

09-18-2007, 06:59 PM	#5
zac07 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,061	It is sad to hear that we have buried 3 officers in the last week.

09-19-2007, 03:51 PM	#7
Bilt4Comfort XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Desert Southwest Posts: 326	Well...this will come as a shock...but it turns out that the asshole was an illegal alien who had been deported a year ago for a theft conviction. They should have dragged his ass behind a horse with a rope around his feet all the way back to the border, rather than put him on a bus. I hate that I harbor so much hatred for this particular group of people, because I'm not one to hate. But I seriously doubt I would shed a single teardrop if every IA ended up just like that scumbag. Hope he has a nice trip home in his frickin' pine box, cuz I know he ain't comin' back again. Hmmm...pine box instead of a bus works for me too. __________________ Rem870Tac SA XD40 SC Taurus M608 Henry.22 You cannot legislate morality, and banning inanimate objects will never substitute for personal responsibility. Banning and limiting things merely makes them profitable to criminals via laws of supply and demand.

09-19-2007, 04:32 PM	#8
lobster_roboto XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,574	What the crap... He had a MISDEMEANOR WARRANT? What makes these people think that killing anyone just to not go to jail for something like that is a good idea. I simply can not belive someone would do something like that... To bad the "victim" in the car he stole wasn't carrying.... At least he is dead... Justice.... __________________ "Let's go straight to the source and ban crime"

09-19-2007, 04:37 PM	#10
DanTheEldest XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,266	Here's what I found from another source on my local AZ forum: "The man didn't have identification but gave officers a name and birth date that Erfle ran through a police computer. That search turned up a misdemeanor warrant for shoplifting out of Tucson. Police would later find out the man hadn't given his real name. Martinez likely used an alias because he was trying to hide the fact he had felony warrants for aggravated assault and false imprisonment, stemming from a 2006 domestic-violence incident. But the officers didn't know any of that and tried to arrest him on the misdemeanor warrant. That's when Martinez shoved Erfle to the ground, pulled a gun and fired multiple times. Police said it all happened in a matter of seconds." Multiple felony warrants + having already been deported once would make somebody fight. Yeah...they're just here to work....whatever. __________________ The AK-47: Designed to be field-stripped and used effectively by a half-drunk, half-frozen illiterate conscript who found it buried in Mother Russia's mud after last year's Regiment exercises. SOP: retrieve from ground, pee in action, cycle bolt, go back to work. I cannot and will not recant anything, for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. Here I stand, I can do no other, so help me God. --Martin Luther

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