Average number of shots fired per incident? - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

saltysquid · 08-31-2007, 04:17 PM

Does anyone, leo or otherwise, know of any statistics to show how many average shots are fired by either leo or civillians in self defense. The old "8 + 1 is not near enough (example)" argument seems to be ongoing forever. Yes, I know it's personal preference to carry a lot of ammo or not, but I am jsut wondering in real world instances if is rare that a ccw holder would need to fire more than say 9 rounds. I also know it's really rare for one to need to pull his gun at all, but I'm jsut curious.

This has nothing at all to do with whethere there should be high cap magazines, but for instance someone that says it's better to carry .40 than .45 because there are normally more rounds in the same model gun.

danp · 09-01-2007, 01:28 PM

Last I heard, it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 to 5 rounds.

saltysquid · 09-03-2007, 03:36 AM

That's what I have heard also.

dsump · 09-03-2007, 05:51 AM

I don't know the average but my buddy had to shoot and kill a bad guy and he fired off four shots. One doesn't count his shots during a situation that requires deadly force. With that said I feel that a person should train on shot placement rather than worry about enough ammo. If you use a Walther P22 with 60g bullets that can kill as good as a XD45, depending where you put your round. Although I just saw the Taurus Judge 45/410, one shot of 410 in the face may just do it. Good training in emergency and tactical magazine changes would make you better shooter.

08-31-2007, 04:17 PM	#1
saltysquid XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 752	Average number of shots fired per incident? Does anyone, leo or otherwise, know of any statistics to show how many average shots are fired by either leo or civillians in self defense. The old "8 + 1 is not near enough (example)" argument seems to be ongoing forever. Yes, I know it's personal preference to carry a lot of ammo or not, but I am jsut wondering in real world instances if is rare that a ccw holder would need to fire more than say 9 rounds. I also know it's really rare for one to need to pull his gun at all, but I'm jsut curious. This has nothing at all to do with whethere there should be high cap magazines, but for instance someone that says it's better to carry .40 than .45 because there are normally more rounds in the same model gun. __________________ 1911auto 12 years U.S. Navy, Viet Vet Lifetime Member Disabled American Veterans. Member American Legion. Lifetime Member Disabled Vet DRA Member. If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?

09-01-2007, 01:28 PM	#2
danp XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 1,283	Last I heard, it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 to 5 rounds. __________________ God made cops so that firefighters could have heros too. "There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." - Ernest Hemingway

09-03-2007, 03:36 AM	#3
saltysquid XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 752	That's what I have heard also. __________________ 1911auto 12 years U.S. Navy, Viet Vet Lifetime Member Disabled American Veterans. Member American Legion. Lifetime Member Disabled Vet DRA Member. If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?

09-03-2007, 05:51 AM	#4
dsump XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 268	I don't know the average but my buddy had to shoot and kill a bad guy and he fired off four shots. One doesn't count his shots during a situation that requires deadly force. With that said I feel that a person should train on shot placement rather than worry about enough ammo. If you use a Walther P22 with 60g bullets that can kill as good as a XD45, depending where you put your round. Although I just saw the Taurus Judge 45/410, one shot of 410 in the face may just do it. Good training in emergency and tactical magazine changes would make you better shooter. __________________ I Own Lots Of Guns and a Home Security Alarm with Safe and a Crappy Dog

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