L.E.O.: "Carrying in Condition 3 Saved My Life! - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

Mercmar · 12-17-2006, 06:21 PM

http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=629663

GrandPaBob · 12-17-2006, 08:05 PM

Stupid is as Stupid does!

Jettubby · 12-17-2006, 09:07 PM

The perp is lucky he only went to jail for attempted murder. Dumbass.

Apdl · 12-17-2006, 10:23 PM

wow i guess ill always carry a round chamberd
but not to shoot LEO

**oklawall** · 12-18-2006, 04:52 AM

to bad they didn't remove him from the gene pool

**hacker15** · 12-18-2006, 03:55 PM

I carry my duty pistol (XD 40 service) in condition 1 all the time - never even considered carrying it any other way. I carried a Ruger P97DC last week - same way - round up, full mag in the well. When I was a street LEO, I always carried my duty gun in condition 1. Why, in the name of all that's holy, would you carry any other way? Even in the days when I carried a S&W Model 10, it was in condition 1. Of course, with a revolver, you can leave the hammer on an empty chamber - but that gives you one less round....depending on the gun, it may/may not be the way you want to go.

In the heat of the moment, you won't think to rack a round up and you'll stand there like some DUMB A*S with a pistol that won't fire.

PelhamGMan · 12-19-2006, 11:12 AM

I would argue that, by not carrying his service weapon in condition 3, the officer saved his own life.

roberto-232 · 12-19-2006, 11:52 AM

I prefer to carry in Condition 4. That’s the gun loaded, one in chamber and bayonet attached…..LOLOLOLOL

Same here guys, why would you carry without one in the chamber if you’re using it for Duty or Protection.

Ripplingh2o · 12-19-2006, 12:59 PM

So as "the story goes" the poster over on GlockTalk writes: "The interesting part is that just prior to firing my first round, and while I was firing additional rounds I distinctly saw the suspect squeezing the trigger of his glock."

I've read this exact post on 3 other handgun forums and it seems to me it's only an attempt to discuss and flame over Condition 1, 2, 3, or 4 and why it is "stupid" not to carry your firearm in any other condition other than Condition 1 (round in the chamber, cocked and locked).

What humors me about this entire post is two things right off the bat. One, if someone is "firing additional rounds" at a BG, who in their right mind is going to be distinctly looking at the trigger of the gun of the BG? And second, if the Glock did not have a round in the chamber there likely would not have been any trigger travel for the GG to distinctly see being squeezed.

I only make mention of these odd facts because, IMHO, this entire scenario is make believe and was only posted in an attempt to stir the pot some more about which is the best condition to carry a handgun. Comments like stupid is as stupid does no doubt are what the original poster was hoping for. As for me, sharing my thoughts and opinions on the topic...forget it.

**hacker15** · 12-19-2006, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripplingh2o

So as "the story goes" the poster over on GlockTalk writes: "The interesting part is that just prior to firing my first round, and while I was firing additional rounds I distinctly saw the suspect squeezing the trigger of his glock."

I've read this exact post on 3 other handgun forums and it seems to me it's only an attempt to discuss and flame over Condition 1, 2, 3, or 4 and why it is "stupid" not to carry your firearm in any other condition other than Condition 1 (round in the chamber, cocked and locked).

What humors me about this entire post is two things right off the bat. One, if someone is "firing additional rounds" at a BG, who in their right mind is going to be distinctly looking at the trigger of the gun of the BG? And second, if the Glock did not have a round in the chamber there likely would not have been any trigger travel for the GG to distinctly see being squeezed.

I only make mention of these odd facts because, IMHO, this entire scenario is make believe and was only posted in an attempt to stir the pot some more about which is the best condition to carry a handgun. Comments like stupid is as stupid does no doubt are what the original poster was hoping for. As for me, sharing my thoughts and opinions on the topic...forget it.

Kind of agree with some of this - I don't think I'd be looking at his trigger finger ('less I was planning on shooting it off!).

With the XD and most other modern semi's, there's no reason not to carry with one up and a full mag - as long as you have the right duty holster (at a minimum containment level 2 or better). Now, would I stick a Glock with one up and a full mag in my belt? Not likely.

12-17-2006, 06:21 PM	#1
Mercmar XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,761	L.E.O.: "Carrying in Condition 3 Saved My Life! http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=629663

12-17-2006, 08:05 PM	#2
GrandPaBob XDTalk Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC Posts: 94	Stupid is as Stupid does! __________________ Reason when possible; Extreme action when necessary. Sig P220 Carry Equinox (.45ACP) XD 9 Service XD 45 ACP Service CZ 2075 RAMI P 9mm Bersa Thunder .380 CC Yes, I'm still Under Construction!

12-17-2006, 09:07 PM	#3
Jettubby XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "Blink...and you're mine!" Posts: 1,921	The perp is lucky he only went to jail for attempted murder. Dumbass. __________________ T "You can come along peacefully or you don't have to come along at all". - Sonny Crockett "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln "My 1911 is better than your 911."

12-17-2006, 10:23 PM	#4
Apdl XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Burnsville, MN Posts: 2,354	wow i guess ill always carry a round chamberd but not to shoot LEO __________________ "He took off running, and we caught him, and he just kept resisting. So we just kept whipping his ass." -HulkXD "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein If you are not part of the solution you are part of the precipitate Springfield XD-9 TOTAL COUNT 8206 Daily Carry Springfield 1911 Loaded Target 9mm Walther P22... needs bigger mag Ruger 10/22 Carbine Remington 700 SPS Tactical .308 Win EBR Build in progress

12-18-2006, 03:55 PM	#6
hacker15 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 3,477	I carry my duty pistol (XD 40 service) in condition 1 all the time - never even considered carrying it any other way. I carried a Ruger P97DC last week - same way - round up, full mag in the well. When I was a street LEO, I always carried my duty gun in condition 1. Why, in the name of all that's holy, would you carry any other way? Even in the days when I carried a S&W Model 10, it was in condition 1. Of course, with a revolver, you can leave the hammer on an empty chamber - but that gives you one less round....depending on the gun, it may/may not be the way you want to go. In the heat of the moment, you won't think to rack a round up and you'll stand there like some DUMB AS with a pistol that won't fire. __________________ If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man.* Mark Twain Last edited by hacker15; 12-19-2006 at 04:28 PM. Reason: Had wrong condition code here - meant "1", typed "3"

12-18-2006, 04:52 AM	#5
oklawall XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maud, Oklahoma Posts: 10,166	to bad they didn't remove him from the gene pool

12-19-2006, 11:12 AM	#7
PelhamGMan XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 19	I would argue that, by not carrying his service weapon in condition 3, the officer saved his own life.

12-19-2006, 11:52 AM	#8
roberto-232 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 195	I prefer to carry in Condition 4. That’s the gun loaded, one in chamber and bayonet attached…..LOLOLOLOL Same here guys, why would you carry without one in the chamber if you’re using it for Duty or Protection. __________________ "Envy the country that has heroes, huh? I say pity the country that needs them." Quote by Denton Van Zan 'Dragon Slayer': Reign of Fire (Played by Matthew McConaughey)

12-19-2006, 12:59 PM	#9
Ripplingh2o XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern Minnesota Posts: 130	So as "the story goes" the poster over on GlockTalk writes: "The interesting part is that just prior to firing my first round, and while I was firing additional rounds I distinctly saw the suspect squeezing the trigger of his glock." I've read this exact post on 3 other handgun forums and it seems to me it's only an attempt to discuss and flame over Condition 1, 2, 3, or 4 and why it is "stupid" not to carry your firearm in any other condition other than Condition 1 (round in the chamber, cocked and locked). What humors me about this entire post is two things right off the bat. One, if someone is "firing additional rounds" at a BG, who in their right mind is going to be distinctly looking at the trigger of the gun of the BG? And second, if the Glock did not have a round in the chamber there likely would not have been any trigger travel for the GG to distinctly see being squeezed. I only make mention of these odd facts because, IMHO, this entire scenario is make believe and was only posted in an attempt to stir the pot some more about which is the best condition to carry a handgun. Comments like stupid is as stupid does no doubt are what the original poster was hoping for. As for me, sharing my thoughts and opinions on the topic...forget it.

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