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djnate · 12-16-2006, 07:23 PM

i dont understand what do you mean?

GaLEO · 12-16-2006, 07:39 PM

Most LEO/Firefigher/EMT/Hosptial types should have taken the National Incident Management Sytems IS-700 class prior to Oct 06. This includes any agency who may be recieving, or would want to recieve federal funding if their jurisdiction either responds to a national emergency or is the target of a national emergency. There are classes for entry level, management level, elected officials, etc....that are going to be required if your agency is going to get Federal funding. This isn't new folks, this has been going on for over a year. Part of it is a "request" that agencies dispense with 10-codes and go to a plain english radio format. We did it this past summer. The Feds are not making anyone do away with 10-codes, it is just good practice. If you have never been on a dangerous city street (New Orleans post Katrina) with cops from New Jersey, Texas, California,Georgia and Lousisiana all trying to talk to each other you will quickly see why 10 codes have become useless.
here is the NIMS link www.nimsonline.com
ETA: Even if YOUR agency isn't directly receiving Federal Funds, someone in your State is. It all goes hand in hand.

Slotback · 12-16-2006, 08:37 PM

We use dang few 10-codes in my dept. Eventually we'll be down to 10-4, 10-8 and 10-95.

tinstar268 · 12-16-2006, 10:18 PM

Sadly the Sheriff's dept that I work for has gone to plain talk. I was trained in Maricopa County Arizona where the 10 code was a must. Sadly I miss it. Espicaly when you have a subject listening to the radio of your partner who forgot to wear his earpiece that day. I agree with a universal 10 code for all departments.

GaLEO · 12-17-2006, 08:33 AM

That is why we use 10 codes for anything that may be officer safety related. We don't want the BG to hear that he is "wanted". Other than that, what is a good reason to hang on to the 10 codes? As far as a "universal" or "standard" 10 code sytem, nothing else in law enforcement is universal, even phonetic alphabets change from agency to agency. Do you really think a universal 10 code would work?

danp · 12-17-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GaLEO

Most LEO/Firefigher/EMT/Hosptial types should have taken the National Incident Management Sytems IS-700 class prior to Oct 06. This includes any agency who may be recieving, or would want to recieve federal funding if their jurisdiction either responds to a national emergency or is the target of a national emergency. There are classes for entry level, management level, elected officials, etc....that are going to be required if your agency is going to get Federal funding. This isn't new folks, this has been going on for over a year. Part of it is a "request" that agencies dispense with 10-codes and go to a plain english radio format. We did it this past summer. The Feds are not making anyone do away with 10-codes, it is just good practice. If you have never been on a dangerous city street (New Orleans post Katrina) with cops from New Jersey, Texas, California,Georgia and Lousisiana all trying to talk to each other you will quickly see why 10 codes have become useless.
here is the NIMS link www.nimsonline.com
ETA: Even if YOUR agency isn't directly receiving Federal Funds, someone in your State is. It all goes hand in hand.

I took the classes, and what I understood was that clear speech was to be used at any event that required a multi-agency response. There was nothing in any of the classes I took about individual agencies doing away with their 10 codes.

Jesse H · 12-20-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike TRT

Ive been to so many schools where they show episodes of COPS in the class and its always what NOT to do......I hate that silly show, havent seen it in a decade.......then again, I dont know many cops that actually watch it either.

I do, but probably because I'm a rookie.

I mainly like watching for mistakes; it's scary how many lethal ones they make.

Mike TRT · 12-21-2006, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesse H

I do, but probably because I'm a rookie.

I mainly like watching for mistakes; it's scary how many lethal ones they make.

too funny, it won't be long and you'll stop watching it too.....it can be an eye opener for sure.

its weird to see sometimes how other places do things in different parts of the country...........I just can't watch it anymore, then again I don't watch any police related tv shows.

street cruiser · 01-04-2007, 10:33 PM

The last few seminars I have attended regarding disaster preparedness have included everyone using plain English. Apparently this comes from the federal level and puts everyone on the same page. I just recently transferred from one dept to another and the 10 and signal codes were almost completely different. It was a real ball breaker to learn a whole new set of codes. The trend appears to have been set.

Pltybx · 01-05-2007, 02:09 PM

So I'm learning my codes now and I wanted to ask, what study techniques did you all use to learn all the codes? Right now I'm doing flash cards that I made myself.

12-16-2006, 07:23 PM	#21
djnate XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 52	i dont understand what do you mean? __________________ XD 40 Service model Colt 1911 (U.S. goverment 1913)

12-16-2006, 07:39 PM	#22
GaLEO XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northeast Georgia Posts: 116	Most LEO/Firefigher/EMT/Hosptial types should have taken the National Incident Management Sytems IS-700 class prior to Oct 06. This includes any agency who may be recieving, or would want to recieve federal funding if their jurisdiction either responds to a national emergency or is the target of a national emergency. There are classes for entry level, management level, elected officials, etc....that are going to be required if your agency is going to get Federal funding. This isn't new folks, this has been going on for over a year. Part of it is a "request" that agencies dispense with 10-codes and go to a plain english radio format. We did it this past summer. The Feds are not making anyone do away with 10-codes, it is just good practice. If you have never been on a dangerous city street (New Orleans post Katrina) with cops from New Jersey, Texas, California,Georgia and Lousisiana all trying to talk to each other you will quickly see why 10 codes have become useless. here is the NIMS link www.nimsonline.com ETA: Even if YOUR agency isn't directly receiving Federal Funds, someone in your State is. It all goes hand in hand. Last edited by GaLEO; 12-16-2006 at 07:44 PM.

01-04-2007, 10:33 PM	#29
street cruiser XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 242	The last few seminars I have attended regarding disaster preparedness have included everyone using plain English. Apparently this comes from the federal level and puts everyone on the same page. I just recently transferred from one dept to another and the 10 and signal codes were almost completely different. It was a real ball breaker to learn a whole new set of codes. The trend appears to have been set. __________________ >>>>Perseverate in Pugna<<<< 'Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.' (From a Texas A&M student) The difference between the tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin. (Mark Twain)

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12-16-2006, 08:37 PM	#23
Slotback XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 139	We use dang few 10-codes in my dept. Eventually we'll be down to 10-4, 10-8 and 10-95.

12-16-2006, 10:18 PM	#24
tinstar268 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 12	Sadly the Sheriff's dept that I work for has gone to plain talk. I was trained in Maricopa County Arizona where the 10 code was a must. Sadly I miss it. Espicaly when you have a subject listening to the radio of your partner who forgot to wear his earpiece that day. I agree with a universal 10 code for all departments.

12-17-2006, 08:33 AM	#25
GaLEO XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northeast Georgia Posts: 116	That is why we use 10 codes for anything that may be officer safety related. We don't want the BG to hear that he is "wanted". Other than that, what is a good reason to hang on to the 10 codes? As far as a "universal" or "standard" 10 code sytem, nothing else in law enforcement is universal, even phonetic alphabets change from agency to agency. Do you really think a universal 10 code would work?

01-05-2007, 02:09 PM	#30
Pltybx XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 733	So I'm learning my codes now and I wanted to ask, what study techniques did you all use to learn all the codes? Right now I'm doing flash cards that I made myself.