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Nemesis · 12-08-2006, 12:13 PM

Are all agencies operating under DHS now issued HK P2000, if so which cal. ?

**hacker15** · 12-08-2006, 12:25 PM

I heard some were moving to the 5.7 USG by FHN. Don't know how true this is - most fed agencies are pretty close mouthed about what they're doing.

From what I've heard, this round is a real stunner, with super high speed and a decent weight at delivery. The pistol itself is ugly (IMO) and middle of the road in cost (about $800).

For my use, I'll stick with the .40 in JHP (Hornady TAP is my personal preference).

BBunin · 12-08-2006, 02:40 PM

No stopping power, great penetration.
A terrific round for the P90, where you can hit the guy with 5-10 rounds.......

**hacker15** · 12-08-2006, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBunin

No stopping power, great penetration.
A terrific round for the P90, where you can hit the guy with 5-10 rounds.......

Yeah - that's the way I read it - the penetration is what brings them down, but you'll need a few well placed to do the job. Means more emphsis on "shot placement" (which is never emphsised enough anyway) in the training routine.

Glxso201 · 12-08-2006, 03:49 PM

Supposed to be hella accurate tho....if it wasn't for ammo cost, i think it would be a great pistol

GlenncXD9 · 12-09-2006, 02:13 PM

DHS got a contract with SIG SAUER for 65,000 pistols for different government agencies, read this article.
http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun...606/index.html

nhill0408 · 12-10-2006, 10:48 AM

Border Patrol Agents just transitioned from Beretta 96's to P2000's in .40. I believe the CBPO's at ports transitioned from Glock 17's to the P2000. ICE agents are now being issued Sig's but still have plenty of Glocks and HK's floating around. That covers all of CBP and ICE. The Coast Guard issues Sig's as well, but I'm sure there's alot of M9's still there as well. Not sure about any other agencies.

jnc36rcpd · 12-11-2006, 01:59 PM

Secret Service, FAMS, and FPS issue the 229 in 357SIG. In the case of USSS and FAMS, I believe it's the standard trigger rather than DAK.

Miguel · 12-11-2006, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hacker15

I heard some were moving to the 5.7 USG by FHN. Don't know how true this is - most fed agencies are pretty close mouthed about what they're doing.

From what I've heard, this round is a real stunner, with super high speed and a decent weight at delivery. The pistol itself is ugly (IMO) and middle of the road in cost (about $800).

For my use, I'll stick with the .40 in JHP (Hornady TAP is my personal preference).

the old fellow who sold me my spare 45 mags, had just switched to one from a 45 and said he liked it a lot. He said long range shots were a snap, and that since it has virtualy no kick, a volley of well aimed follow up shots is easy to do.

ronrod71 · 12-14-2006, 10:57 PM

All US Border Patrol agents have begun transition training to the HK P2000 in .40 cal replacing the Beretta 96 Centurion. MOST of DHS uses .40 cal.

12-08-2006, 12:13 PM	#1
Nemesis XDTalk Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: GA Posts: 43	DHS Carry Gun? Are all agencies operating under DHS now issued HK P2000, if so which cal. ? __________________ Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me.

12-08-2006, 12:25 PM	#2
hacker15 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 3,457	I heard some were moving to the 5.7 USG by FHN. Don't know how true this is - most fed agencies are pretty close mouthed about what they're doing. From what I've heard, this round is a real stunner, with super high speed and a decent weight at delivery. The pistol itself is ugly (IMO) and middle of the road in cost (about $800). For my use, I'll stick with the .40 in JHP (Hornady TAP is my personal preference). __________________ If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man. Mark Twain

12-08-2006, 02:40 PM	#3
BBunin XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 2,029	No stopping power, great penetration. A terrific round for the P90, where you can hit the guy with 5-10 rounds....... __________________ . When seconds count, the police are only five minutes away. ------------------------------------ MY PARTIAL TOY LIST XD-9 5" (Production) XD-40 5" (Limited10) SA 1911 Loaded (Limited10/SingleStack) STI Spartan (Limited10/SingleStack) Kahr PM9 (CCW) KT P3AT (CCW) Remington 11-87 (Trap) Remington 870 Express (HD/Trap) Misc Rifles for fun and hunting

12-09-2006, 02:13 PM	#6
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12-14-2006, 10:57 PM	#10
ronrod71 XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 38	Dhs/usbp All US Border Patrol agents have begun transition training to the HK P2000 in .40 cal replacing the Beretta 96 Centurion. MOST of DHS uses .40 cal. __________________ www.chucknorrisfacts.com "Don't hit at all if you can help it; don't hit a man if you can possibly avoid it; but if you do hit him, put him to sleep." Theodore Roosevelt New York City, February 17, 1899

12-08-2006, 03:49 PM	#5
Glxso201 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 576	Supposed to be hella accurate tho....if it wasn't for ammo cost, i think it would be a great pistol

12-10-2006, 10:48 AM	#7
nhill0408 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern Texas Posts: 336	Border Patrol Agents just transitioned from Beretta 96's to P2000's in .40. I believe the CBPO's at ports transitioned from Glock 17's to the P2000. ICE agents are now being issued Sig's but still have plenty of Glocks and HK's floating around. That covers all of CBP and ICE. The Coast Guard issues Sig's as well, but I'm sure there's alot of M9's still there as well. Not sure about any other agencies.

12-11-2006, 01:59 PM	#8
jnc36rcpd XDTalk Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 40	Secret Service, FAMS, and FPS issue the 229 in 357SIG. In the case of USSS and FAMS, I believe it's the standard trigger rather than DAK.

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