Driving The Speed limit on the interstates & highways

[Talon]

Hello All,

So what would you do? If four cars drove exactly the speed limit ie. 55mph side by side on a four lane highway? Wouldn't it impede safe traffic flow, and create a significant backup of vehicles behind maybe "5 miles" or more. It seems it would cause wrecks, block vehicles from safely entering on and exiting off the route. Plus it would also hinder emergency responce.

How would you handle this? How would your district courts handle it? Would it be illegal to drive the speed limit then?

Peace,
Tal~

[HulkXD]

I would invoke a traffic stop on whomever was in the furthest left lane, for holding left lane (violation in KY.) There is no law on holding middle lanes or right lane, and most 4+ lane highways have signs posted, "KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS". I would most likely not issue a citation, but a warning, unless the driver was an asshole.

[HulkXD]

Also, the District court would most likely probate the charge, and require court cost payment (135.50!!!). There are MANY reasons for stopping a vehicle besides speeding

[nikon777]

Originally Posted by HulkXD

There are MANY reasons for stopping a vehicle besides speeding

way to promote public trust of police.

[tec]

Originally Posted by nikon777

way to promote public trust of police.

Now now, we know your dislike of LEO's. I think what he means is, look at my truck, it's dirty right now, he could say he didn't see the taillights. It's loud (even with a new exhaust system), he pulls me over for noise. No front plate (as you know it is required in Ohio). Items flying out windows, he thinks I am littering, Actually we are just spitting out our sunflower seeds.

get Da point?

I have encountered situations like that many times. It's frustrating. And if a LEO can fix it, more power to em.

[Mike TRT]

Originally Posted by nikon777

way to promote public trust of police.

the vehicle code is a thick as a phone book here, and only 1 paragraph is about speed........there are about 3000 different reasons for making a stop. and then of course there is the famous "investigative" stop, which means I stopped you because I wanted to.......

public trust? who gives a ****, I have a job to do and I do it....the law abiding public does trust the police, (and rarely ever has any contact with the police) the ones who generally dont trust are the ones that have crap to hide

[Iniquity]

Originally Posted by Mike TRT

the ones who generally dont trust are the ones that have crap to hide

Actually I'd beg to differ. I've had a lot of run in's with the law, and I can say I walk a straight. But I definently don't trust my local LEO's.The reasons they've given are ridiculous.

Examples I guess. I'm not trying to argue or debate it with ya, I just differ in opinion.

I once was swinging with my girlfriend at a public park 15 minutes after closing, there was absolutely no sign telling the hours (which I showed to the police). Three squad cars drove up and detained her and I, while they waited for drug k9's. They told us we looked like we might have been smoking weed, but I hadnt even brought my pack of cigs with me. They searched the entire park (350yrd sq) and searched us, ran checks on our ID's and came up with nothing. All in all it took 40 minutes of my time, and not an apology in sight.

Everytime I've had a taillight out I've been stopped, but instead of them just telling me it's out and instructing me to get it fixed, as I've had happen once, and only once. They demand for us to step out, be searched, have the car searchd, ect. After about the 4th time I finally said I dont consent to them searching my car because theres no reason I would be doing that (They claimed they were having a problem with guns and such coming in to the city) Funny how I was leaving town, and if I had in fact had anything, I sure as heck wouldn't have had a headlight out. They even asked us if we had 'grenades or explosives'. After turning up nothing, they drove off, no thank you or apology.

I would possibly understand that situation if someone matching that that car description, or the number of 21yr olds driving in a car had blown up something earlier that day/week, but they never mentioned that, or gave a full reason for demanding to search the car. They did joke about how dirty the car was, but otherwise they were always downtalking and being verbally aggressive/hostile.

The thing I hate most is that if you know your rights, or try to use them they assume you odviously have something to hide, therefor your a criminal and up to no good. When I told them I didnt consent, they threatend to bring out the dogs, had me sit in the back of the squad car.. ect ect.

I know they have a job to do, and I really do respect law enforcement and the risks they take keeping our states out of chaos. But their actions and ego's sometimes need to be checked. They are public servants after all.

This turned out much longer then I expected lol, I won't even start on The Local Sheriffs Dept.

[Talon]

Hello All.

Thanks for the replys. I still find it interesting that even with the "far right lane pass only laws" it would still be impossible to pass **if **everyone was obeying/ driving the posted limit. ie To pass would require one to illeagaly accelerate beyond the posted limit.

As a kid in the mid 60's when we would cruise Friday and Sat nights on the local strip (3 lanes.) We would hold traffic up by speed limit pacing so we could get longer runs (race). During those times we had a better chance of ditching the police.

I am a firm believer of the public trust. I'm retired DOC now a teacher,both of my carreers played heavily on public trust ,and where opinion on proffessional demeanor is extremely critical. I can assure you if you have the trust of your citizenry it makes for a more productive /condusive relationship.

Abuse of authority (or the perception of) is rampant in many departments nationwide but its just as unfair to paint a broad stroke saying that all LEO's are power corupt, as it is saying all citizens are assholes..

Our sectors Border Patrol agents here take alot of grief over some of thier tactics with US citizens. They sure can generate alot of hotwater for themselves

Again, thanks for the replys, I'm still interested in reading others thoughts on my speed limits inquiry . Keep an eye on your six.

Peace,
Tal~

[retired]

Ca. has a section re impeding the flow of traffic that would probably be appropriate in this situation. I would also have pulled ove the driver in the fast lane as that lane is generally considered a "passing" lane.

I also wouldn't necessarily cite, I'd investigate and find out why. An officer has a lot of discretion as to whether to cite for an infraction or even arrest for a misdemeanor.

I can't speak for all areas, but a lot of locals have laws on the books stating parks close at sunset, without posting exact hours. Sometimes these laws are posted in the city codes and not nessarily the park themselves. Swinging with your girlfirend at the park can sure be dangerous; as there are plenty of bgs looking for just that. Find somewhere a little safer.

Also, you might try and keep your taillights working; what's up with that they keeping on having problems. Maybe it the local pd are breaking them without you knowing it just to stop you.

[Iniquity]

lol, very true, and very possible

I lived directly across the street and it was a well lit park. Not sure about not requiring it to be posted, but I'd think it almost a given to have one. Not too worried about bg's in that area but I understand what your saying