XD9 Compact vs. M&P 9mm Compact? - Page 4 - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

larz · 08-18-2007, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximum1

Kudos to my fellow XD owners...I appreciate the feedback and I'm truly enjoying my purchase

We knew it all along.........

Maximum1 · 08-18-2007, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by larz

We knew it all along.........

APismoClam · 08-29-2007, 06:03 PM

I traded in my lemon M&P 40 compact for an XD9 Sub Compact and am very happy with my trade. Over the course of several months, I sent my M&P 40 C back to S&W three times for the dreaded magazine drop problem to no avail (check out the M&P forum for more on that mess) and had enough frustration with it reliability wise to motivate me to look elsewhere for satisfaction. My M&P 9 Compact also had to be sent back once for the same problem and I still don't trust it as my CCW weapon. Mind you, I was/am greatly disappointed as to what I hoped my experience with the M&P compact series could have been, especially after my full size M&P 40 has been flawless to-date reliability-wise.

While I still own a full size M&P 40 and a Compact 9, the 9C has been sidelined as one of my "play-time" guns. I still like it, I just don't trust my life with it. I'm proud to say that my CCW is now my XD9 SC, which has been perfect reliability-wise and everything that the M&P compacts could have been.

Salilus · 08-29-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hemidart

I have handled and shot an M&P 9mm and found it to be a well made and accurate firearm. My friend owns one and after the range we went to his house to clean our weapons. My XD comes apart with no tools for regular cleaning. What I didn't like about the M&P...well what I thought was quirky was you had to remove a tool from the grip to release an item inside the mag well to release the frame.

Other then that I liked it a lot and really liked the lower slide profile over my XD....but I still wouldn't trade....

Might add an M&P someday though.

The only reason this is, you dont have to pull the trigger to remove the slide.

Chayak · 09-04-2007, 02:41 PM

I don't know about the compact but the full size M&P is just a good pistol. It feels good in the hand and I like the feel of the trigger better than my XD.

I know having to use a tool to take it down was mentioned but I don't feel this is a flaw, just an extra saftey measure so you don't have a ND and best case shoot a hole in something non-living. The same with the magazine drop saftey.

Overall the M&Ps are great pistols. Will I be giving up my XDs? Nope Will I be getting some M&Ps? You bet I will.

40packin · 09-05-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chayak

Overall the M&Ps are great pistols. Will I be giving up my XDs? Nope Will I be getting some M&Ps? You bet I will.

Just watch out for those dropping mags while shooting. A seriously stupid problem that the M&P's have been having.

40packin · 09-09-2007, 12:30 PM

I'm sure that Springfield irritates a few people here and there with them making you have to send your gun back for repairs. I was irritated at first because I had a first generation XD that didn't come with any "gear" and the finish was horrible. The gun hiccuped all the time and failed to feed on a constant basis. After they shaved down the barrel ramp and put the new finish on it was like a new gun. I have to say, the fact that I know I have a lifetime warranty with them and that any problem I'll ever have with that thing is covered under warranty for the rest of my life and/or anyone I pass the gun onto is what makes me want to go out and buy more Springfield products. I might have to send it away, sure, but I know its getting top notch service and repair and its going to come back in tip top condition. Ever since Springfield serviced my XD the one time, I've put over 2500 rounds through it without a single problem. The fact that they pay you back for shipping is also awesome. We can argue about after-sales service and what have you but everyone knows Springfield makes outstanding products and they back every gun with their lifetime warranty. I can't see that as being a bad thing and its also one less gun I have to gunsmith myself when the time comes.

samman23 · 09-13-2007, 08:56 AM

I was making the same decision not long ago. I actually prefer the M&P feel and enjoyed shooting it as well. I like the lower bore axis much more than the XD. But when it came down to it they both shot well, but the XD has more history behind it and has had most of the problems worked out. If you look over at the M&P forums, enough of them are still having problems that I shyed away from it. I also like being able to see the pin and the bullet in the chamber on the XD.

husker_t · 09-15-2007, 11:39 AM

A few months back, I needed a subcompact for carry, and went through a long research process, and narrowed it down finally to the CZ Rami 9mm, the XD9 Sc, and the M&P compact.

The XD9 won, for the following reasons:

* Best trigger. The XD9 trigger was by far the best of the three. Although you can quibble about this, for all practical purposes it's a 5-pound single action trigger, and the best of any I've felt on an inexpensive, production polymer gun.
* Most accurate. I could shoot more accurately with the XD9 than the others, though it was close. I think in real-world testing, some will shoot better with the M&P, some with the XD, they probably won't be far apart.
* Proven and reliable. Every gun CLAIMS to be reliable, but in the case of the M&P, it's fairly new yet, whereas the XD has PROVEN its reliability via lots of hard usage and some major torture tests, like this one. And in subsequent use, in over 1500 rounds, I've not had a SINGLE FTF or FTE in my XD9.
* Easier take-down. This is subjective, but I found the XD9 was quicker and easier to field strip than any other pistol. I don't like that you have to pull the trigger to get the slide off, but other than that, it's great.
* Best ergonomics. Again subjective, but it felt the best in my hand of any compact pistol I tried.
* Simple controls. This one is hard to argue with. I LOVE the fact that with the XD, there's no external safety switch or anything. You have the built-in grip safety to prevent AD's, but other than that, just grab the gun and it's ready to fire. That mechanical simplicity appealed to me much more than carrying something "cocked and locked."

Just recently, I went through the same process all over again, as I was selecting a 45 ACP, and again found myself comparing an XD, the new M&P 45, and a couple of other modern-style 45's. Bottom line, the XD won again, for many of the same reasons of above.

I'm not "religious" about guns, I'll get whatever seems to be the best combination of performance and reliability and price. But twice now, in the "under $1000" category, the XD has proven to be the best overall gun I could find.

08-29-2007, 06:03 PM	#33
APismoClam XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Near Dizney Woild, FL Posts: 24	I think you made the right decision. I traded in my lemon M&P 40 compact for an XD9 Sub Compact and am very happy with my trade. Over the course of several months, I sent my M&P 40 C back to S&W three times for the dreaded magazine drop problem to no avail (check out the M&P forum for more on that mess) and had enough frustration with it reliability wise to motivate me to look elsewhere for satisfaction. My M&P 9 Compact also had to be sent back once for the same problem and I still don't trust it as my CCW weapon. Mind you, I was/am greatly disappointed as to what I hoped my experience with the M&P compact series could have been, especially after my full size M&P 40 has been flawless to-date reliability-wise. While I still own a full size M&P 40 and a Compact 9, the 9C has been sidelined as one of my "play-time" guns. I still like it, I just don't trust my life with it. I'm proud to say that my CCW is now my XD9 SC, which has been perfect reliability-wise and everything that the M&P compacts could have been.

09-04-2007, 02:41 PM	#35
Chayak XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: TX Posts: 112	I don't know about the compact but the full size M&P is just a good pistol. It feels good in the hand and I like the feel of the trigger better than my XD. I know having to use a tool to take it down was mentioned but I don't feel this is a flaw, just an extra saftey measure so you don't have a ND and best case shoot a hole in something non-living. The same with the magazine drop saftey. Overall the M&Ps are great pistols. Will I be giving up my XDs? Nope Will I be getting some M&Ps? You bet I will. __________________ "Nobody loves peace more than a soldier does, because he´s the one who suffers in flesh and bone the horrors of war" "A Soldier pays for land by the inch with blood that a diplomat will give away by the mile without breaking a sweat."

09-09-2007, 12:30 PM	#37
40packin XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Las Vegas, ex-Californian Posts: 222	I'm sure that Springfield irritates a few people here and there with them making you have to send your gun back for repairs. I was irritated at first because I had a first generation XD that didn't come with any "gear" and the finish was horrible. The gun hiccuped all the time and failed to feed on a constant basis. After they shaved down the barrel ramp and put the new finish on it was like a new gun. I have to say, the fact that I know I have a lifetime warranty with them and that any problem I'll ever have with that thing is covered under warranty for the rest of my life and/or anyone I pass the gun onto is what makes me want to go out and buy more Springfield products. I might have to send it away, sure, but I know its getting top notch service and repair and its going to come back in tip top condition. Ever since Springfield serviced my XD the one time, I've put over 2500 rounds through it without a single problem. The fact that they pay you back for shipping is also awesome. We can argue about after-sales service and what have you but everyone knows Springfield makes outstanding products and they back every gun with their lifetime warranty. I can't see that as being a bad thing and its also one less gun I have to gunsmith myself when the time comes. Last edited by 40packin; 09-09-2007 at 12:33 PM.

09-13-2007, 08:56 AM	#38
samman23 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 159	I was making the same decision not long ago. I actually prefer the M&P feel and enjoyed shooting it as well. I like the lower bore axis much more than the XD. But when it came down to it they both shot well, but the XD has more history behind it and has had most of the problems worked out. If you look over at the M&P forums, enough of them are still having problems that I shyed away from it. I also like being able to see the pin and the bullet in the chamber on the XD. Last edited by samman23; 09-14-2007 at 06:57 AM.

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09-15-2007, 11:39 AM	#39
husker_t XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: WA State Posts: 189	A few months back, I needed a subcompact for carry, and went through a long research process, and narrowed it down finally to the CZ Rami 9mm, the XD9 Sc, and the M&P compact. The XD9 won, for the following reasons: * Best trigger. The XD9 trigger was by far the best of the three. Although you can quibble about this, for all practical purposes it's a 5-pound single action trigger, and the best of any I've felt on an inexpensive, production polymer gun. * Most accurate. I could shoot more accurately with the XD9 than the others, though it was close. I think in real-world testing, some will shoot better with the M&P, some with the XD, they probably won't be far apart. * Proven and reliable. Every gun CLAIMS to be reliable, but in the case of the M&P, it's fairly new yet, whereas the XD has PROVEN its reliability via lots of hard usage and some major torture tests, like this one. And in subsequent use, in over 1500 rounds, I've not had a SINGLE FTF or FTE in my XD9. * Easier take-down. This is subjective, but I found the XD9 was quicker and easier to field strip than any other pistol. I don't like that you have to pull the trigger to get the slide off, but other than that, it's great. * Best ergonomics. Again subjective, but it felt the best in my hand of any compact pistol I tried. * Simple controls. This one is hard to argue with. I LOVE the fact that with the XD, there's no external safety switch or anything. You have the built-in grip safety to prevent AD's, but other than that, just grab the gun and it's ready to fire. That mechanical simplicity appealed to me much more than carrying something "cocked and locked." Just recently, I went through the same process all over again, as I was selecting a 45 ACP, and again found myself comparing an XD, the new M&P 45, and a couple of other modern-style 45's. Bottom line, the XD won again, for many of the same reasons of above. I'm not "religious" about guns, I'll get whatever seems to be the best combination of performance and reliability and price. But twice now, in the "under $1000" category, the XD has proven to be the best overall gun I could find.