Question regarding slide lock, or not..

[para_org]

I got throughly reamed in another thread for suggesting the thumb on the back of the slide thing.

Further I was told that no one in their right mind would do such a thing, or something to that effect while being lectured that no one credible teaches it, and that it is some made up nonsense. (This even after I mentioned Massad Ayoob teaches it.)

I am thrilled that you are getting good advice here without such sillyness as I got. i.e. Please consider altering your holstering technique to the one Massad Ayoob teaches. I use it every day for ALL of my holstered guns.

[Globeguy]

Originally Posted by para_org

Further I was told that no one in their right mind would do such a thing, or something to that effect while being lectured that no one credible teaches it, and that it is some made up nonsense. (This even after I mentioned Massad Ayoob teaches it.)

Do you know why people who said these things to you? Only thing I can think of is if something got inside your holster it can possibly activate your trigger and have the slide come back and hurt your thumb.

[jtkratzer]

Originally Posted by Globeguy

Do you know why people who said these things to you? Only thing I can think of is if something got inside your holster it can possibly activate your trigger and have the slide come back and hurt your thumb.

but with your thumb on the back of the slide by the striker indicator, you won't be depressing the grip safety, thus preventing the trigger from being activated.

[Globeguy]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

but with your thumb on the back of the slide by the striker indicator, you won't be depressing the grip safety, thus preventing the trigger from being activated.

Ya, I know that. But I'm assuming that people who said this do not own a gun with grip safety and are not thinking about the upside to doing this. Instead they own a gun with certain feature that would bring about a downside to holstering this way and I'm wondering what that feature might be.

[The Knight Of Light]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

but with your thumb on the back of the slide by the striker indicator, you won't be depressing the grip safety, thus preventing the trigger from being activated.

The grip safety and older knowledge of semi automatic pistols is the reason for the thumb on the back of the slide.

Some older holster designs pushed the slide out of battery as well. The practice has fallen out of favor because of the use of Molded Kydex holsters. It is not taught in many schools save for a few like LFI or the SIG academy.

[para_org]

Originally Posted by Globeguy

Do you know why people who said these things to you? Only thing I can think of is if something got inside your holster it can possibly activate your trigger and have the slide come back and hurt your thumb.

Yeah, that and some of the other things can go wrong as well, and have been enumerated herein since your question was asked.

Um, just to be clear, I advocated the thumb on the back of the slide (or hammer if a revolver). Some others were quite immature and resorted to name calling to indicate that it was not what you should do.

Since you already figured out one of the reasons for yourself, I can only hope that you will train on the thumb on back of the slide for your own safety.

And BRAVO for being smarter than your equipment. That's what will help keep you safe !!

[para_org]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

but with your thumb on the back of the slide by the striker indicator, you won't be depressing the grip safety, thus preventing the trigger from being activated.

I will refer you to this article:

< http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob031207.html >
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob031207.html

IF you sceroll down a little past half way and look at the picture of this grip, you will see the proper way to do it AND that it does NOT de-activate the grip safety !!

Bravo for figuring this out !!

Originally Posted by Globeguy

Ya, I know that. But I'm assuming that people who said this do not own a gun with grip safety and are not thinking about the upside to doing this. Instead they own a gun with certain feature that would bring about a downside to holstering this way and I'm wondering what that feature might be.

There isn't really any downside OTHER THAN people who do not train properly on gripping their sidearm. For them it may be best to teach them to just grab it and try not to get their finger inside the trigger housing and try to make sure their holster is empty of debris and.....Well you guys are way smart enough to figure this out where I am going with this, as you have already amply demonstrated.

[jtkratzer]

Originally Posted by para_org

I will refer you to this article:

< http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob031207.html >
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob031207.html

IF you sceroll down a little past half way and look at the picture of this grip, you will see the proper way to do it AND that it does NOT de-activate the grip safety !!

Bravo for figuring this out !!


There isn't really any downside OTHER THAN people who do not train properly on gripping their sidearm. For them it may be best to teach them to just grab it and try not to get their finger inside the trigger housing and try to make sure their holster is empty of debris and.....Well you guys are way smart enough to figure this out where I am going with this, as you have already amply demonstrated.

right, i already saw this, i'm agreeing with you and said basically the same thing as what's in the article.

[para_org]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

right, i already saw this, i'm agreeing with you and said basically the same thing as what's in the article.

Um yep, that's why I said "Bravo" !!

The paragraph starting with "There isn't..." was placed after a quote from Globeguy which somehow got removed from your message above. i.e. I was responding to him.

Sorry for quoting two different authors and responding in one message if it confused the reading of the comments.

[jtkratzer]

Originally Posted by para_org

Um yep, that's why I said "Bravo" !!

The paragraph starting with "There isn't..." was placed after a quote from Globeguy which somehow got removed from your message above. i.e. I was responding to him.

Sorry for quoting two different authors and responding in one message if it confused the reading of the comments.

no prob, life goes on. mixed quotes, misread sarcasm, part of life on the forums.