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Old 07-22-2006, 09:15 PM   #21
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I just wanted to say that I am mexican...
If you're an American citizen, why not call your self an American? When you say you're a Mexican, it sounds like you're here as an alien. Having pride in a county that your ancestors came from makes no since to me. Be proud to be and American, if you are.

Or am I wrong assuming you're a US citizen? In that case, I guess you would be a Mexican.
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Old 07-22-2006, 09:25 PM   #22
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It might...I am hispanic and I realy don't give a *$#@ what people say about hispanics, because it doesn't matter, it just shows their ignorance. Ok lets talk Guns.
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:40 AM   #23
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If you're an American citizen, why not call your self an American? When you say you're a Mexican, it sounds like you're here as an alien. Having pride in a county that your ancestors came from makes no since to me. Be proud to be and American, if you are.
Latinos identify themselves by their country of origin much the same way Caucasians refer to people as "African-Americans." If you think that by someone saying their Mexican that it means they're an Illegal Immigrant, you're pretty far off base and might want to consider the history of these countries as to why people might be proud of their country of origin.

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portrayed in a positive light, and not as culturally ignorant or racist. The Brady center and the soccer moms are after your right to own and carry guns, and the least we can do is paint our picture in a positive manner. By posting bigotry and ignorance, we are backpedaling as a gun owning community. I think the Mods here are onboard with this ideaology.
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If you're an American citizen, why not call your self an American? When you say you're a Mexican, it sounds like you're here as an alien. Having pride in a county that your ancestors came from makes no since to me. Be proud to be and American, if you are.

Or am I wrong assuming you're a US citizen? In that case, I guess you would be a Mexican.
Lol, your comment really made me laugh. I'm a Texan, and so that definately means that I'm quite proud to be a Texan and an American. I would gladly serve and die for our country, therefore I'm very proud of it and my rights. I personally believe that every right that we have is paid for in blood. I am in fact a US citizen, I was born and raised here in the United States, and don't speak spanish very well at all, lol. I understand that having pride in a country that your ancestors came from makes no sense to you, but it might to some people. Just like was mentioned here, for me, saying I am mexican is me merely claiming my ancestry. You might view this as similar to someone saying the were Jewish (when talking about nationality), African American, etc. It's just giving someone something about my background that I rather enjoy. I don't have any loyalty to Mexico or anything else, but I am proud of the accomplishments of some of my ancestors, if they hadn't accomplished those things, then I definately would be here in the States, I'd be European (which could be far worse, lol). Honestly XD45ACP, I'm not sure where you're from, but to assume that all Mexicans are illegal aliens sounds really bad my friend. I ain't trying to jump on your case, just that there are alot of people who would view that as ignorant, and since you are here and we've had some intelligent posts back and forth on other topics; I know this isn't the case. I hope that this maybe helps clarify what you brought up a bit.
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My dads side of the family is almost all from germany. In fact my great grandparents only spoke german. My grandparents spoke both. I never once heard of us being german growing up. Only American. I'm proud of being of german background (and about a dozen others) but I'm not a german-irish-polish-french/canadian-american.
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I think a lot of the animosity towards Hyphenated-Americans is brought on themselves.

First of all, the fact that anyone priveleged enough to live in our country would put another country in front of it is taken as an insult. To wave another country's flag in our face is an insult. To not speak our langauge is an insult. To not obey our laws is an insult.

My family has Native American, Mexican, European, and African ancestory. But we all call ourselves AMERICANS, with pride.

Also, my family members of Mexican decent are some of the most outspoken against illegal immigration.
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I think a lot of the animosity towards Hyphenated-Americans is brought on themselves.

First of all, the fact that anyone priveleged enough to live in our country would put another country in front of it is taken as an insult. To wave another country's flag in our face is an insult. To not speak our langauge is an insult. To not obey our laws is an insult.
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Just something to ponder ... I spent many years working for the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) and several of those years were spent working in central and south Texas. The VA provides health care to over 70,000 Mexican citizens who still live in Mexico and cross over into Texas to receive their health care. These Mexican citizens are entitled to health care from the VA because they all served in the U.S. Armed forces active duty during WW II, the Korean war, and the Vietnam war. They are all proud to be Mexican citizens and proud to have served in the U.S. military.
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If you think that by someone saying their Mexican that it means they're an Illegal Immigrant, you're pretty far off base and might want to consider the history of these countries as to why people might be proud of their country of origin.
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Honestly XD45ACP, I'm not sure where you're from, but to assume that all Mexicans are illegal aliens sounds really bad my friend.
Where did you get that I think all "Mexicans" are illegal? Please re-read my post and point out where I used the word "illegal". If you're referring to my use of the word "alien", that doesn't mean illegal(http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/alien). We have lots of legal aliens in this country from all over the world.

You have every right to feel proud of your county of origin. I may not agree with it, but that's my right too. I'm not just picking on "Mexicans". I don't like it when folks use hyphenated-American terms to describe themselves either. To me, it a way to divide us, not unite us. Saying you're an American brings us together.

My reasoning for thinking this way is simple. Politicians like to use these issues to put a wedge between us. The old divide and conquer. It's easier to control the people when they aren't united.
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Many good points have been pointed out but we're starting to go somewhat off-topic. Point is not to use any type of commonly understood bigot or racist epitaphs on the forums. Now we're nitpicking nomenclatures.

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