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WildCat87 · 05-26-2008, 06:16 PM

I went to the local range yesterday and rented an XD-9. My dad and sister came along. We all loved it, though my sister had some issues with it, and I was wondering if you guys can explain what happened...

1. Failure to feed?

Is that what it's called? We only put 4 rounds in the magazine at a time. Sometimes (and this only happened when she was holding the gun) the slide would lock back like if the gun were empty, except there was still one more round in the magazine. All we had to do was release the slide, and fire...

That happened I think 3 times, I think all on the last round.

2. Umm, this...

How did she manage this? I still have no clue. The bullet fired, but the shell didn't eject properly I guess.

XD40DucheKiller · 05-26-2008, 06:20 PM

duurrrrrty ass rental gun equals less reliability usually. a well taken care of xd can handle 1000 rounds without a failure.

Tally XD · 05-26-2008, 06:25 PM

I'd guess its a case of severe "limp wristing" the gun. When a person "limp wrists" the gun isnt stable and the slide doesnt come back far enough to chamber another round or it causes the thumb to contact the slide release and locks the slide to the rear.

The picture of her failure to eject is likely also a symptom of limp wristing. Slide, again, didnt come back far enough to allow time for the spent casing to fully clear the ejection port.

Basically, get a better grip with the off hand and stabilize the gun.

Joeywhat · 05-26-2008, 06:28 PM

Limp wrist + rental = bad news. It probably has never been cleaned.

WildCat87 · 05-26-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tally XD

Basically, get a better grip with the off hand and stabilize the gun.

That makes sense. The slide hit her thumb of her off hand on her very first shot as she didn't know how to correctly hold the gun with two hands. Also the only time she shot it with one hand the gun had no issues whatsoever.

The gun also wasn't exactly spotless, but it was very accurate for my dad and I. We're probably going to buy one soon, maybe the XD-M.

MadBadger · 05-26-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WildCat87

...the slide would lock back like if the gun were empty, except there was still one more round in the magazine. All we had to do was release the slide, and fire...

Sounds like she was just pressing the slide stop up with her thumb while gripping. I don't think the cleanliness of the gun had anything to do with it...

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Originally Posted by WildCat87

This is called a "stovepipe," or failure to eject. She was most likely "limp wristed," as stated.

WildCat87 · 05-27-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MadBadger

Sounds like she was just pressing the slide stop up with her thumb while gripping. I don't think the cleanliness of the gun had anything to do with it...

Is it coincidence that each time it happened there was only one round left in the magazine?

RobsXd40 · 05-27-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WildCat87

Is it coincidence that each time it happened there was only one round left in the magazine?

Limp wrist and rentals usually never get cleaned so i say there's the problem.. my .02 cents

abailey362 · 05-27-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WildCat87

Is it coincidence that each time it happened there was only one round left in the magazine?

weight balance would be a little different, but not enough to have an effect if gripped properly.

a lot of time if someone limp wrists and has a light grip the gun will climb in the strong hand as you put more rounds through it (backwards force is converted to upwards force because it has an easier escape). this would cause her to have an even worse grip and increase the odds of a FTF.

stovepipe is probably a combination of limp wrist and dirty extractor

Krackels · 05-27-2008, 04:46 PM

The XD will stovepipe if limp wristed. I was out shooting with my friend and his wife, and his wife could reliably make the gun stove pipe as a result of limp wristing.

The slide might be locking back prematurely if the shooter's thumb rides really high and pressed up against the slide lock lever.

05-26-2008, 06:16 PM	#1
WildCat87 XDTalk Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 31	Shot an XD for the first time. Questions... I went to the local range yesterday and rented an XD-9. My dad and sister came along. We all loved it, though my sister had some issues with it, and I was wondering if you guys can explain what happened... 1. Failure to feed? Is that what it's called? We only put 4 rounds in the magazine at a time. Sometimes (and this only happened when she was holding the gun) the slide would lock back like if the gun were empty, except there was still one more round in the magazine. All we had to do was release the slide, and fire... That happened I think 3 times, I think all on the last round. 2. Umm, this... How did she manage this? I still have no clue. The bullet fired, but the shell didn't eject properly I guess.

05-26-2008, 06:25 PM	#3
Tally XD XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Florida Posts: 1,144	I'd guess its a case of severe "limp wristing" the gun. When a person "limp wrists" the gun isnt stable and the slide doesnt come back far enough to chamber another round or it causes the thumb to contact the slide release and locks the slide to the rear. The picture of her failure to eject is likely also a symptom of limp wristing. Slide, again, didnt come back far enough to allow time for the spent casing to fully clear the ejection port. Basically, get a better grip with the off hand and stabilize the gun. __________________ You have a right to self defense! Vote *AGAINST* Obama!! ----------------------------------------- 2007 XD.45ACP Service (black) Mega "Gator" AR-15 5.56mm Remington 870 Tactical

05-26-2008, 06:28 PM	#4
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Krackels XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 18,708 Blog Entries: 5	The XD will stovepipe if limp wristed. I was out shooting with my friend and his wife, and his wife could reliably make the gun stove pipe as a result of limp wristing. The slide might be locking back prematurely if the shooter's thumb rides really high and pressed up against the slide lock lever. __________________ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin America's Third Parties --- Duping the Foolish and Idealistic since 1832. PA Roll Call .................... My Blog

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05-26-2008, 06:20 PM	#2
XD40DucheKiller XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 534	duurrrrrty ass rental gun equals less reliability usually. a well taken care of xd can handle 1000 rounds without a failure.