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Join Date: May 2008
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XD-M --> range report
![]() may 16, 2008 this morning i decided that i wanted the new springfield XD-M, but after browsing the online auctions i wasnt very optimistic about finding one. imagine my surprise when my first call hit pay dirt. i happened to call scheels in billings montana and the gun manager told me that they had ordered one and expected it to be delivered today with their morning deliveries. after i couldnt even find a price by which to compare anywhere in the entire state of montana (course, i didnt tell him that) he informed me that the price would be $599 and i told him it was sold and drove to the store to await the delivery (ok, i get a little overly excited with each new gun purchase). on the drive down he called me to let me know that my gun had arrived and was being processed into their system. ![]() my first impression was a favorable one. as OEM gun cases go, this one is very nice. the XD gear isnt impressive by any means, but its awful handy to have....especially with a design so new that the aftermarket doesnt yet support it. the holster is now a paddle holster with adjustable retention. its not uncomfortable at all, and appears to be durable. i dont like that the double magazine holder is molded to carry the magazines reversed from one another. under the stresses of a defensive shooting i could see the potential for attempting to load one of the magazines into the weapon backwards. i prefer consistant motions that can be performed instinctually as instinct is all youll be left with during a crisis such as a defensive shooting. i dont mention this under "what i dont like" because this is an issue with the included gear and not the weapon itself. the magazine loader is next to worthless and in fact i found that i could consistantly load the magazines faster by hand. ![]() i never factor in asthetic value on carry weapons as i find beauty in proper function. with beauty being in the eye of the beholder, ill let these pictures speak for themselves. if asthetic value is important to you, this is one of those guns that youll either love or hate. ![]() ![]() continued below |
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Join Date: May 2008
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![]() from top to bottom for size comparison:
![]() Click image for video although i shot somewhat poorly (to much time - due to trigger and rear sight channel) i found the XD-M to be both controllable and accurate. in fact, prior to shooting the XD-M i dont think ive ever had two bullet holes touch on a controlled pair with any weapon. i couldnt repeat it (not for a lack of trying!) but it was a really neat thing to see. controlled pairs/combat shooting was very good, and well aimed target shooting was extremely accurate for a production line handgun. when this weapon is released in 9mm it is sure to be a big hit with competitive shooters. Conclusion: this is a great weapon that will surely serve anyone very well. i had no failures in 200 rounds (100 WWB, 50 HST 165 grain, 50 HST 180 grain) and would expect to say the same thing after 2000 rounds. i do feel overall that the internet hype exceeds the true value of this pistol, but that is not the fault of the design of the pistol. i came into this with the belief that the S&W M&P is the ideal service size .40, and found myself asking what the XD-M offers that the M&P does not and in the end i found very little. it does offer 1 more round of capacity but honestly thats the only advantage i could find to the XD-M over the M&P and considering the awful trigger on the XD-M i would still choose the M&P over it. the M&P trigger really isnt much better (this is my only real criticism of the M&P as well) but at least with the M&P you can feel both the precise sear release point as well as the reset without having to pay close attention to it. i still believe that the M&P is the ideal service size weapon, but the XD-M would ultimately prove equal. my criticisms are not due in any way to my preferences for any other designs or brands. my criticisms are based in nothing more than my limited first hand experience with this weapon and the impressions it leaves me with. perhaps the aftermarket will produce decent sights and perhaps someone will find a way to clean up the trigger, but my assessment was based on out of the box performance only. while im reluctant to warm up to the XD-M (due to the trigger moreso than anything else), it is a great defensive pistol and i wouldnt hesitate to entrust it with my life. it is way to large for me to consider it as a carry weapon, but it would make a great home defense weapon as well as a great service weapon. at this point im really on the fence about it. i could sell it without regret, or i could put some money into it (trigger and sights) and have a great gun for home defense. ill update you with my intent after ive put another few boxes of ammunition down range. Last edited by MontanaBighorn; 05-22-2008 at 09:24 PM. |
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Abilene, TX
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GREAT report!! Looks like you got it at a very reasonable price, too. Alot better than other threads that I have read. I think I will wait for the 9mm or .45 to be released before I make the switch.
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XDTalk 100 Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 374
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Thanks for taking the time for the in depth review. I somewhat like the XD-M but like 2001Stroke said, I will wait for the 9mm or .45 also.
Nice shooting also! |
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Location: Goodyear, AZ
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Thanks
Thanks for an excellent report. I wonder how much of the "M" factor is just promotional hype?
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Excellent review.
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cool, it does keep growing on me, and i'm glad its still functionally effective, and i assume it disassembles like the original XD?
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XDTalk 100 Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 122
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Wow, that report was better than you read in a magazine. Hats off. You may have missed your calling, you should be a gun critic. I think that was as close to an unbiased opinion anyone can get.
For now, I think that I will stick with my non-M XD.40 |
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XDTalk 500 Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North West Florida
Posts: 602
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Thanks for an excellent review. I will continue with the original XD platform and I don't care what caliber the XD-M is produced in. In my opinion I think they should simply produce the original XD with an excellent trigger job and offer it as standard equipment on every XD and perhaps offer some models without the ACC. rail.Thanks again for an excellent report it helped me make up my mind.
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XDTalk Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 92
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Nice review; thanks for sharing your impressions.
My money says it won't be long at all before Scott Springer has the XDM's trigger completely figured out and is offering trigger jobs to compliment the new pistola.
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