FTF at round #872...for real this time - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

EvoIXGSR · 04-11-2008, 03:30 PM

Basically I went to the range today with my father and a co-worker, and because I didnt want to have any ammo in my car while it was in the parking lot at work, I had to buy some at the range when I got there. I picked up some dirt cheap Lake City .45ACP ammo. The guy behind the counter said that I should not be suprissed if I have a FTF or two because the primers are very hard and don't like striker fired handguns. Well sure enough, at the second to last round in my first magazine, all I got was a "tick". Knew what happened right away. Just thought I would share, but besides this one incident that I attribute to bad ammo, my XD has performed flawlessly.

kayl · 04-11-2008, 04:02 PM

Did you try to fire the round a second time? If so, did it fire that time?

Outsider · 04-11-2008, 05:09 PM

Tap and rack, tap and rack...

Sirius1963 · 04-11-2008, 05:13 PM

Stoopid question time.... what does FTF mean? Fail to Feed or Fail To Fire ?

I've seen it used both ways, does it mean both?

I have had some of those with my reloads, I guess I'll chalk it up to "don't use those primers again!" and BTW, it did fire the second time.

EvoIXGSR · 04-11-2008, 06:15 PM

not sure what FTF actually means, but i was using it as "failure to fire"

Don · 04-11-2008, 10:16 PM

FTF is both Fail to Feed and Fail to Fire and only understood by the context unless stated. The proper convention in literature is to write it the long way the first time and then use the initials after that, but we internet users do not bow to convention.

Lefthanded Shooter · 04-12-2008, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don

FTF is both Fail to Feed and Fail to Fire and only understood by the context unless stated. The proper convention in literature is to write it the long way the first time and then use the initials after that, but we internet users do not bow to convention.

BRAVO, BRAVO

Thank you for your post Don. For me, and likely for many others especially when they are new, your point is right on TARGET

I am struggling to understand many posts because of the use of acronyms with which I am unfamiliar.

I respectfully request, and strongly encourage, other members take Don's post to heart. Please remember, you were new at one time and had to learn. We can each help others with a little courtesy and not much effort.

Thank you.

LS

**mhillsing23** · 04-12-2008, 01:17 PM

(Another reason the glossary of acronyms brought up recently would be helpful.)

buddycraigg · 04-12-2008, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhillsing23

(Another reason the glossary of acronyms brought up recently would be helpful.)

i agree, a glossary would be helpful.

EDIT. the rest didn't need to be said.

Ishpeck · 04-13-2008, 07:17 AM

Bad Ammo Doesn't Count!

04-11-2008, 03:30 PM	#1
EvoIXGSR XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 127	FTF at round #872...for real this time Basically I went to the range today with my father and a co-worker, and because I didnt want to have any ammo in my car while it was in the parking lot at work, I had to buy some at the range when I got there. I picked up some dirt cheap Lake City .45ACP ammo. The guy behind the counter said that I should not be suprissed if I have a FTF or two because the primers are very hard and don't like striker fired handguns. Well sure enough, at the second to last round in my first magazine, all I got was a "tick". Knew what happened right away. Just thought I would share, but besides this one incident that I attribute to bad ammo, my XD has performed flawlessly. __________________ XD-45ACP Tactical Bi-Tone Mossberg 500 (8-round, top folding pistol grip) SKS (yugo)

04-11-2008, 04:02 PM	#2
kayl XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: WI Posts: 1,213	Did you try to fire the round a second time? If so, did it fire that time? __________________ Have you talked to your XD today?

04-11-2008, 05:09 PM	#3
Outsider XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Orem, UT Posts: 416	Tap and rack, tap and rack... __________________ *"No Mess" Since 1985* Springfield XD-40 4" Service ======================== "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke (1729-1797), British statesman and philosopher "Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum." - ("If you want peace, prepare for war.") - Flavius Vegetius Renatus. Roman Military strategist. c. 390. A.D "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." -V, V for Vendetta

04-11-2008, 05:13 PM	#4
Sirius1963 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pacific NorthWET (Seattle) Posts: 996	Stoopid question time.... what does FTF mean? Fail to Feed or Fail To Fire ? I've seen it used both ways, does it mean both? I have had some of those with my reloads, I guess I'll chalk it up to "don't use those primers again!" and BTW, it did fire the second time. __________________ You don’t win anything in a gunfight, you just get to keep what you have. The loudest sound in the world is a “click” when you need a “bang.” The second loudest sound in the world is a “bang” when you were expecting a “click.”

04-11-2008, 06:15 PM	#5
EvoIXGSR XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 127	not sure what FTF actually means, but i was using it as "failure to fire" __________________ XD-45ACP Tactical Bi-Tone Mossberg 500 (8-round, top folding pistol grip) SKS (yugo)

04-11-2008, 10:16 PM	#6
Don XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Pullman, WA Posts: 4,151	FTF is both Fail to Feed and Fail to Fire and only understood by the context unless stated. The proper convention in literature is to write it the long way the first time and then use the initials after that, but we internet users do not bow to convention. __________________ Don geek with guns Why don\'t you all f-f-f-fade away.... FAQ - Don\'s Guide Rod

04-12-2008, 01:17 PM	#8
mhillsing23 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,724	(Another reason the glossary of acronyms brought up recently would be helpful.) __________________ Veritas vos liberabit...

04-13-2008, 07:17 AM	#10
Ishpeck XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 3,568	Bad Ammo Doesn't Count! __________________ Because Godwin's law hasn't been beaten hard enough today: I don't think it's any coincidence that one of the forms of "witholdings" in my paycheck is labeled "SS." http://me.ishpeck.net/index.php?P=2020_vision

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