How Good Are These Sights

[EV1L]

Anyone tried any of these sights?

Looks good, but I'm not sure how practical they are with a holster.

Sure Sights: Sure Sight - The Newest Idea in Accurate Shooting

Advantage Tactical Sights: Advantage Tactical Sight

Thoughts...?

[Krackels]

Originally Posted by EV1L

Anyone tried any of these sights?

Looks good, but I'm not sure how practical they are with a holster.

Sure Sights: Sure Sight - The Newest Idea in Accurate Shooting

Advantage Tactical Sights: Advantage Tactical Sight

Thoughts...?

The sure sights look like they're great for quick acquisition and accuracy, but the Advantage tacticals look like they'd be harder to align so therefore better on non-time sensitive shooting.

I don't have any personal experience with either, so those are just my thoughts. they both kinda play off of Steyr's triangle sights but they're both very different from them.

[EV1L]

My main concern is that it may break of fall of the gun when holstering in and out the gun.

[Krackels]

Originally Posted by EV1L

My main concern is that it may break of fall of the gun when holstering in and out the gun.

They definitely shouldn't fall off the gun when holstering or unholstering.

Leibster is a sponsor here. Suresight has a sub forum here so he/they can answer any specific questions, but here's their most common questions:

Originally Posted by Leibster

Many of you have had questions about the new SureSight.
Below are the 8 most frequently asked questions, along
with their answers.

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1. Will SureSight fit in all standard holsters?
A. Yes. We have not yet found a holster that will not
accept a firearm equipped with SureSight. We have found one
old, discontinued model where SureSight abraded the sight
channel, but this did not adversely affect the functioning of
either the sight or the holster.

2. Will SureSight snag on holsters or clothing,
especially while drawing the gun?
A. No. SureSight was specifically designed for people who
carry concealed and rely on their firearms for defense.
As a result, every angle was considered when designing these
sights. By design, they are extremely snag-resistant.

3. Can I install the sights myself?
A. That depends. We strongly encourage you seek
professional installation. But if you are "handy", you should
be able to accomplish this yourself without too much trouble
using a hammer, a brass punch and a vise. If this seems
unfamiliar to you, please seek professional installation.

4. For what model handguns is SureSight available?
A. Currently, SureSight is available for all models of
Glocks and Springfield Armory XD, and
Sigarms 9mm, .40, and .45 pistols.

5. Does SureSight glow?
A. Yes. Our coating is impregnated with a special
luminescent material that will yield approximately a half-hour
or more of visible glow from a 20-30 second exposure from
a bright light source, such as a SureFire® or Streamlight®
flashlight, or direct sunlight. This feature is intended for two
specific uses: A police officer who must perform a building
search and has time to charge his sights, and a competitor
at a night shooting match.

6. How visible is SureSight in the dark?
A. A non-tritium equipped SureSight still functions well
in a low light environment. Even without the luminescent
glow, our sights remain HIGHLY visible in low light, due to
the bright yellow coating and relatively large surface area
of the front sight.

7. Do you offer tritium night sights?
A. We do plan on introducing tritium models in the future.

8. How is SureSight different from the sights on the
Steyr pistol?
A. Actually, they work quite differently from the triangle/trapezoid
sights of a Steyr® handgun. While they both use triangles,
the Steyr sights are aligned in precisely the same manner as notch
and post sights. It's just that the sides of the rear notch are
turned in at about a 45 degree angle.

With SureSight, alignment occurs vertically, with the front
pentagonal shape visually placed on top the rear trapezoid.
The end result is that when the sights are aligned, a triangle
is formed, with the tip of the triangle being point of impact.
This capitalizes on a known psychological phenomenon called
the Gestalt Principle of Closure. This principle states that
all human beings with normal brain function possess an inborn
ability to complete shapes.

Some of the advantages of this setup include: a much larger,
more visible and easier to acquire front sight, increased
speed on the target and better visibility during both the
arc of recoil and while shooting on the move, easier seen
for bifocal wearers and those with "older eyes", and
intuitive sight alignment.

But perhaps the greatest advantage is the ability to focus
on one's target and still have the ability to align the sights.

Regardless of prior training, statistics show that the vast
majority of gunfight survivors involuntarily focus on the threat,
not the sights, while engaged in a gunfight. SureSight may
significantly increase the likelihood of a well placed shot under
these conditions, since it can be aimed while staring intently at
the threat.

[mhillsing23]

My concern with those type of sights is that it keeps me from focusing on the front sight correctly. If I do focus on the front sight, it is hard for me to line the triangle up correctly since the rear is blurry. I don't have a hard time placing a post front sight within the rear notch sight.

[jmichna]

Ev1l,
Sure Sights is coming out with a Tritium version for improved low light visibility. These should be available in June. They are also going to be adjustable (rear site).

I will likely replace my factory 3-dot white sites with the new Sure Sights... at least that is the plan for now.

[dreydin]

those look interesting. promising as well. nice find!

[Loves2Shoot]

Originally Posted by mhillsing23

My concern with those type of sights is that it keeps me from focusing on the front sight correctly. If I do focus on the front sight, it is hard for me to line the triangle up correctly since the rear is blurry. I don't have a hard time placing a post front sight within the rear notch sight.

Yep, all the fastest shooters use notch and post sights (see the video I posted in the gallery section or on my website.)

Simply put, you can only focus precisely on one spot in space at a time. Any sight that requires you look at the tip of the sight AND the base of the sight at the same time is overlooking this simple fact. That is why having the rear sight even with the top of the front sight works so well. You are playing "complete a straight line", which the brain does easily. It also gives you a reference in recoil (which the advertisers for triangle sights generally leave out) The sight bouncing between the lines of white space in the rear sight allow you to manage your sight picture and control it during recoil, not when it "lands" on the base. If you are shooting up close, you can drop the rear sight a tad and you have a big post on the front of the gun and you can just put it on the target and you will hit it.

Most people who don't understand about shooting at high speed accurately will gravitate to a sight that looks good when stationery, but sights in action shooting are always moving, so it doesn't hold up under real use. That is why a wider rear sight and thin front sight is king in competition. Keep the front sight in the box of white space of the rear notch and you won't miss for most shots. The further out, the more you have to refine the sight picture, that's all.

Ask yourself this one question about the the Gestalt Principle of Closure.:

Is it easier to complete a straight line or a triangle?

[dutchmaster151]

I havent tried either of those two sights but at a gun show I picked up a Styer m1 pistol that had similar sights and they were awesome. I wish that styer made aftermarket sights for other pistols but they dont

[Loves2Shoot]

Originally Posted by dutchmaster151

I havent tried either of those two sights but at a gun show I picked up a Styer m1 pistol that had similar sights and they were awesome. I wish that styer made aftermarket sights for other pistols but they dont

Any gunsmith can make them for you. A dovetail cut down the center of the rear sight and an bevel the front sight at a matching angle. They don't track that well when shooting, but better than the "land on" sights.