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**jnclement** · 03-21-2008, 08:32 PM

Replaced the sights on both my Steyrs with 3 dots. I don't see where these would be any different.

selectedmarksman · 03-22-2008, 02:46 AM

My experience with SureSights has been excellent. It actually feels like a chore to use notch and posts now.

Check out SureSights' subforums for information on their upcoming release of the next generation (to include a tritium option). I don't work for SureSight or have any special interest in the company, I'm just very happy with the product and their customer service.

mandohack · 03-22-2008, 05:50 AM

SureSights are based on visual gestalt. Our eyes want to complete shapes whether it is a line or a triangle. I'm not convinced that identifying a line is quicker than identifying a triangle, but I seem to do fine with either.

Don't worry about the rear sight being blurry and not being able to complete the shape, it truly is not a problem; just like it's not a problem for completing an iron-sight sight picture.

I went to FrontSight training with my SureSights newly installed and having only shot 100 rounds with them beforehand. They were not at all problematic.

The fit my Crossbreed SuperTuck and my BladeTech holsters without modification. They look huge (an advantage), but aren't. That's just how noticeable they are!

Here is my range report after my trip to Front Sight.
SureSight range report

EV1L · 03-22-2008, 08:17 AM

Thanks for the info.

What is the price for the sights?

**Loves2Shoot** · 03-22-2008, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mandohack

I'm not convinced that identifying a line is quicker than identifying a triangle,

I'm just sharing our extensive testing experience, and explaining why you will not see these type of sights on any gun of top shooters, where speed and accuracy are the most important things.

In our testing (with experienced shooters and novices) shooting a notch and post sight (where the rear sight was removed) provided the same results as the ATS, SS, and other prototype "shape" sights.

I've also been fortunate enough to have these "sight" conversations with some of the best shooters in the world. I just wanted to pass on that info, as they have all spent way more time and money testing these ideas that the average shooter would do in 100 life times.

As with anything, if you think something is the way you want it, go for it.

Blind Bat · 05-12-2008, 09:13 PM

Loves2Shoot - How did the shaped sights work out with novice shooters? Was there a noticeable improvement over traditional 3-dot sights for beginners? If so, would you consider the improvement to be substantial enough to outweigh the inherit placebo effect?

Sorry, for bringing this post back from the dead...

jon45xdtac · 05-12-2008, 09:18 PM

I don't think I could really get used to either of those sights. Standard iron sights are second nature to me. I'd have to re-learn the way I shoot in order to use these.

Just my $0.02.

texasm203 · 05-12-2008, 09:32 PM

I have the Sure Sights on my XD. Installation was interesting to say the least, but I guess that's why it's worth paying the smith.

I like the sure sights too. I do double tap drills out of the holster at the range, and at 15 yards I can usually keep it in the 8 on a B27. I tried these with the factory sights, and I was shooting arms and ..... man parts.

I say the Sure Sights, but I have had limited experience with other types.

**Loves2Shoot** · 05-12-2008, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Bat

Loves2Shoot - How did the shaped sights work out with novice shooters? Was there a noticeable improvement over traditional 3-dot sights for beginners? If so, would you consider the improvement to be substantial enough to outweigh the inherit placebo effect?

Sorry, for bringing this post back from the dead...

There was absolutely no improvement over conventional sights with proper instruction on how sights should be used for different types of shots.

Many people (even people who consider themselves experienced shooters) do not understand how to use their sights efficiently. I'm amazed at how many will spend money on "stuff" and not get training that would give them a real improvement.

Paparock · 05-12-2008, 10:55 PM

Well, I have to admit that I am looking into options for sights as my eye sight has gone down as I age. Focusing on handgun sights becomes harder as you age without the fact that my eyesight is no longer 20/20. I will look in these new sights. I have just found these as well. The HexSite® Sighting System-Home of the Hexsite : Goshen Enterprises, Inc. : Sedona AZ

03-21-2008, 08:32 PM	#11
jnclement XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 2,296	Replaced the sights on both my Steyrs with 3 dots. I don't see where these would be any different. __________________ Contrary to what sells magazines, not all of us are, or want to be SpecOps, SEAL, Recon, Delta, CQB, Ninja, firearm-knife-tactical-death-touch instructors.

03-22-2008, 05:50 AM	#13
mandohack XDTalk Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 67	SureSights are fine SureSights are based on visual gestalt. Our eyes want to complete shapes whether it is a line or a triangle. I'm not convinced that identifying a line is quicker than identifying a triangle, but I seem to do fine with either. Don't worry about the rear sight being blurry and not being able to complete the shape, it truly is not a problem; just like it's not a problem for completing an iron-sight sight picture. I went to FrontSight training with my SureSights newly installed and having only shot 100 rounds with them beforehand. They were not at all problematic. The fit my Crossbreed SuperTuck and my BladeTech holsters without modification. They look huge (an advantage), but aren't. That's just how noticeable they are! Here is my range report after my trip to Front Sight. SureSight range report

05-12-2008, 09:18 PM	#17
jon45xdtac XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 258	I don't think I could really get used to either of those sights. Standard iron sights are second nature to me. I'd have to re-learn the way I shoot in order to use these. Just my $0.02. __________________ Springfield XD 45 ACP 5" Tactical Bersa Thunder 9mm Why I CC "Walk softly and carry a big stick." - Theodore Roosevelt

05-12-2008, 09:32 PM	#18
texasm203 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Antonio Posts: 1,448	I have the Sure Sights on my XD. Installation was interesting to say the least, but I guess that's why it's worth paying the smith. I like the sure sights too. I do double tap drills out of the holster at the range, and at 15 yards I can usually keep it in the 8 on a B27. I tried these with the factory sights, and I was shooting arms and ..... man parts. I say the Sure Sights, but I have had limited experience with other types. __________________ If you won't stand behind our troops, please stand in front of them!

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03-22-2008, 02:46 AM	#12
selectedmarksman XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 141	My experience with SureSights has been excellent. It actually feels like a chore to use notch and posts now. Check out SureSights' subforums for information on their upcoming release of the next generation (to include a tritium option). I don't work for SureSight or have any special interest in the company, I'm just very happy with the product and their customer service.

03-22-2008, 08:17 AM	#14
EV1L XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: FL Posts: 148	Thanks for the info. What is the price for the sights?

05-12-2008, 09:13 PM	#16
Blind Bat XDTalk Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 56	Loves2Shoot - How did the shaped sights work out with novice shooters? Was there a noticeable improvement over traditional 3-dot sights for beginners? If so, would you consider the improvement to be substantial enough to outweigh the inherit placebo effect? Sorry, for bringing this post back from the dead...

05-12-2008, 10:55 PM	#20
Paparock XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Arkansas North Central Ozark Mountains Posts: 11	Well, I have to admit that I am looking into options for sights as my eye sight has gone down as I age. Focusing on handgun sights becomes harder as you age without the fact that my eyesight is no longer 20/20. I will look in these new sights. I have just found these as well. The HexSite® Sighting System-Home of the Hexsite : Goshen Enterprises, Inc. : Sedona AZ