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Old 12-21-2007, 07:22 AM   #31
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ULTRA FIRE FMR1 REBEL LUXEON
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ONE CR 123 A BATTERY
I bought this light from Deal Extreme for $23.24 shipped. I was very curious to try one of the Rebel 200 lumen new Luxeons and I think this is the best way to try one inexpensively.

The light has a click on, click off switch and five modes of intensities. The low mode is 30 lumens and is said to last for 24 hours. Another is 100 lumens for six hours, and the 200 lumens mode is three hours; then you have a strobe mode and an SOS mode.

I used a new Battery Station 123 and in the high 200 mode it lasted for ½ an hour, and it gets hot very quick. I don’t know if the poor run time is the fault of the battery that was under-charged, or if the light will perform the same with others 123’s, but that is the results I got.




Due to the small head, the flood effect is quite pronounced and the throw is poor for a 200 lumen light, but I was expecting it to be that way based on experience with other small headed keychain-type lights.




Two hundred lumens in a two inch head of an incandescent will put a level of illumination that is tremendous in comparison to the small head of the Rebel 200 lumens. So we are in a time when we can no longer make an assessment based on the lumens figure, that is when the comparison pictures that I have been taken show the value, as the viewer can see for himself how the different lights with the same value in lumens output perform in real life.

If I consider the low price I like the little light in general, excepting the side switch that can be a little hard to find in a rush, as it is kind of recessed in the head of the light and difficult to find by feel alone. I will have preferred a tail switch such as I have in my Fenix L1D, but it is a tremendous price difference between the two lights, so all things considered I think that the Ultra fire is a great value, and I can put up with the side switch.

After trying to like the clip for a couple of weeks, I ended throwing it away, it is too flimsy and I will not trust it to keep the light in my pocket. The light is regular anodized, but had stood well the use in my pocket with keys and coins.

Here is my usual 26-yard beam shot against my deer head with the Ultra Fire 200 lumens




And here is a beam shot with the 220 lumens Bear Cub rechargeable that sport a two inch head and have a range of 150 yards.




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Old 12-24-2007, 01:03 PM   #32
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STREAMLIGHT TWIN TASK 2 L
It is easy for me to do an objective review of this light. I have been using a couple of them for two years, quite often (not exclusively because I own other lights also for everyday use).

The light has performed extremely well for me. The Twin Task uses for power two lithium 3 volts, 123 batteries, and it have two light sources, one xenon bulb of 72 lumens and three Nichia 5mm LED’s of about 7 lumens each.
The LED mode will last for 28 hours (I have to take the word of the manufacturer for this, because I haven’t done a run time that long). And the Xenon bulb’s run time will last for 2 ½ hours.
The light is quite comfortable in the hand and similar to others 123’s lights, measuring 1.34” wide and 5.43“ long, and weighing at 3.37 oz.

Due to the micro-faceted reflector, the flood with the three LED’s or the Xenon bulb is ample. If you don’t have to illuminate things at a distance the light is useful for chores inside the house or in the campsite or trail.
I have used it mostly with the three LED’s and I have come to believe the run time of 28 hours claimed by the manufacturer because after two years of sporadic use the light is still going in the same battery set.

The switch is on top of the head, as this is not a “tactical” light I found the switch convenient, so does my wife, that have the same model but in Titanium finish.
The focus is adjustable, but even in the tight setting the light have a lot of flood. I have lend my second light to my hunting pal Frank, that left it on the three stand for a week, on returning the light it was just the same in finish having weathered the week without any mark or discoloration. So, I didn’t have any problem dunking it for a couple of hours in a big glass of water to see if it really was waterproof, and yes, it was, so far at this depth.



The beam shot at 26 yards using the xenon bulb doesn’t look impressive at all, and that is because the reflector is designed for extreme flood, but that is okay, this light is mostly for using indoors, walking the dog or for hiking a trail at the most.




In this picture one of my Twin Task have a Velcro tape, this match with the Velcro in my baseball cap, and allow me to have my hands free for doing any chores while directing the illumination where I am looking.



The street price is about $32 USD and I think that it is quite reasonable for the quality of the product, based on my experience with it I can recommend it highly.

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Old 12-25-2007, 11:22 AM   #33
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Watchmaker,

You own Black Bear Flashlights, do you not? Not sure, but I don't remember it being mentioned in your posts. Of course I could have missed it, that was allot of information you presented!

I really liked the side by side comparison of the lights. I do have a some questions. Why is the photographers shadow in the pictures? Are the lights behind the camera for better picture quality? Just curious. Also, which charger comes with the bear cub for $120?

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Watchmaker,

You own Black Bear Flashlights, do you not? Not sure, but I don't remember it being mentioned in your posts. Of course I could have missed it, that was allot of information you presented!

I really liked the side by side comparison of the lights. I do have a some questions. Why is the photographers shadow in the pictures? Are the lights behind the camera for better picture quality? Just curious. Also, which charger comes with the bear cub for $120?

Thanks,

Yes, BlackBearFlashlights is my web site.
The shadow is because I am with the camera in front of the deer at 12 feet, BUT the light comes from the second story window from my right side (so the shadow project to the left), from 26 yards measured with laser range finder.

The Bear Cub is $130 shipped Priority, insured and comes with a Lithium Ion charger of 3 1/2 hours charge, called Ultra Fire.

I have plenty of lights for future reviews, and I am buying new models every month. Keep tuning here because with the new Cree and Rebel emitters, many new lights will come out in competition with the ones already in the market.

Lumen output is not longer valid to establish comparison; the only way the intensity can be shown is by comparison pictures.

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I have a TL-3 that I keep next to my bed. It emits a blinding light straight on and fills the entire room with light. But I would like to get a similar light that strobes. The Blackhawk Gladius is one that does this but it is much more expensive. Do you know any reasonably priced lights with 200+ lumens that strobe?

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I have a TL-3 that I keep next to my bed. It emits a blinding light straight on and fills the entire room with light. But I would like to get a similar light that strobes. The Blackhawk Gladius is one that does this but it is much more expensive. Do you know any reasonably priced lights with 200+ lumens that strobe?

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The LED mode will last for 28 hours (I have to take the word of the manufacturer for this, because I haven’t done a run time that long).

i dont doubt the extended run time claims at all.
i have a few of the larger streamlight twin tasks and i HAVE left one (the 2D version w/ 10 LEDs if i recall?) on in 'full' LED just to see what would happen - i came back a day(well 30 hours or so to be more exact - they claim a 50hr run time on full LED) later and the LEDs were still going strong (and this was NOT on a new set of batteries). I dont know how much longer they would have lasted, but i thought that was certainly more than i would be likely to need any time soon.
As you said, the xenon illumination isnt the greatest, especially outdoors or at range - but i like my surefire(s) if i need a bit of focused range
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STREAMLIGHT TWIN TASK 2 L
It is easy for me to do an objective review of this light. I have been using a couple of them for two years, quite often (not exclusively because I own other lights also for everyday use).

The light has performed extremely well for me. The Twin Task uses for power two lithium 3 volts, 123 batteries, and it have two light sources, one xenon bulb of 72 lumens and three Nichia 5mm LED’s of about 7 lumens each.
The LED mode will last for 28 hours (I have to take the word of the manufacturer for this, because I haven’t done a run time that long). And the Xenon bulb’s run time will last for 2 ½ hours.
The light is quite comfortable in the hand and similar to others 123’s lights, measuring 1.34” wide and 5.43“ long, and weighing at 3.37 oz.

Due to the micro-faceted reflector, the flood with the three LED’s or the Xenon bulb is ample. If you don’t have to illuminate things at a distance the light is useful for chores inside the house or in the campsite or trail.
I have used it mostly with the three LED’s and I have come to believe the run time of 28 hours claimed by the manufacturer because after two years of sporadic use the light is still going in the same battery set.

The switch is on top of the head, as this is not a “tactical” light I found the switch convenient, so does my wife, that have the same model but in Titanium finish.
The focus is adjustable, but even in the tight setting the light have a lot of flood. I have lend my second light to my hunting pal Frank, that left it on the three stand for a week, on returning the light it was just the same in finish having weathered the week without any mark or discoloration. So, I didn’t have any problem dunking it for a couple of hours in a big glass of water to see if it really was waterproof, and yes, it was, so far at this depth.



The beam shot at 26 yards using the xenon bulb doesn’t look impressive at all, and that is because the reflector is designed for extreme flood, but that is okay, this light is mostly for using indoors, walking the dog or for hiking a trail at the most.




In this picture one of my Twin Task have a Velcro tape, this match with the Velcro in my baseball cap, and allow me to have my hands free for doing any chores while directing the illumination where I am looking.



The street price is about $32 USD and I think that it is quite reasonable for the quality of the product, based on my experience with it I can recommend it highly.

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I am thinking about getting an Olight T20 for home defense. It will output 160 lumens in strobe mode for 5 hrs on two CR123A's and at a cost of about $50. Have you had a chance to take a look at any of the Olight T's? Any opinion about this flashlight? Any opinion about the best tactical strobes? By this I mean strobes that are very disconcerting as well as blinding to a BG.

Thanks for your contributions and reviews. Great Job!
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I am thinking about getting an Olight T20 for home defense. It will output 160 lumens in strobe mode for 5 hrs on two CR123A's and at a cost of about $50. Have you had a chance to take a look at any of the Olight T's? Any opinion about this flashlight? Any opinion about the best tactical strobes? By this I mean strobes that are very disconcerting as well as blinding to a BG.

Thanks for your contributions and reviews. Great Job!



Thank you for your appreciation of my thread.
Quite a few manufacturers sprout recently and are using the new Cree and Rebel emiters.
Many are making the same or similar models and have strobes.
The strobe will work in some guys and not in others (it doesn't affect me).
My solution to the multiple Companies offering similar lights was to order the Fenix T1 (the most popular and of better built).

I will review it soon.

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