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propellerhead · 10-22-2007, 06:56 PM

I bought a "barely used" Crossbreed Supertuck from a forum member and really like it. I've only worn it for a couple of weekends but it felt like I've had it for months. It didn't have a "getting used to it" phase.

Here's what I like about it.

Thickness. One thing that's important to me is the overall thickness. Holsters with a single clip right down the middle tend to be really thick. This makes it harder for me to conceal as the resulting bulge on my hip is rather large. Having the clips offset from the pistol keeps the overall thickness to a minimum. Compared to an all leather holster, the Crossbreed Supertuck's Kydex body even reduces that overall holster and gun thickness.

Stability. Two clips are better than one! With a single clip holster, I found myself constantly adjusting it. Every time I stand up or sit down, my hand went right to the hip to make an adjustment. That's exactly how I figured out that this guy in front of me at the comedy theater was carrying. He kept adjusting his right hip every time we stood up during the applause. Two clips keeps things in place.

Adjustability. The clips on the Supertuck can be placed in any one of four holes. That gives you 16 different possibilities. If the 16 settings on the Supertuck are not enough for you, you can easily drill a new hole. My previous holster had three mounting holes per clip for a total of nine settings and you couldn't really make new ones.

Conformity. The leather back piece on the Supertuck is nice and pliable. It instantly molds to my hip like a glove. My other holster was rather stiff even though it was all leather. The stiffness always created this gap between my body and my waistband just in front of the pistol. I thought it would eventually bend but after months of carrying, it was still stiff. Where this matters a lot is in all day comfort. When you lean up against a wall with your IWB carry, do you feel like you are leaning against a wall with a beer bottle in your waistband? The backing piece on the Supertuck is thick enough to distribute the pressure yet pliable enough to conform to your body.

Quick Draw. The Kydex body allows for a quick and easy draw. My previous all leather holster had a nice tight fit. I wrapped my pistol in a plastic grocery bag folded over a few times and I would leave it in the holster at night. It made the draw a little easier but only if you draw the pistol straight out. If you pulled on the pistol at an angle, it was really tough. I'm sure I could have stretched out the leather even more but then the pistol would fall out. The Kydex body always gives me that reassuring "click" when I holster it yet I can easily draw the pistol out even at odd angles.

There were a couple of things that needed improvement.

Just like my previous holster, the leather backing piece interfered with getting a good grip. I used it in an IDPA match and learned a lot about it. Look at the picture below to better understand what I'm talking about. During the IDPA match, I found myself jamming my thumb into the stiff leather backing piece at the top of the holster. My middle and ring fingers would sometimes hit the belt clip too. Having a clear area around the grip is essential to having a good firm grip on the pistol before drawing it out.

I'm sure the same will happen with the Supertuck so I took a box cutter and trimmed the backing piece. After doing the big cuts, I used a Dremel tool with a sanding barrel to round off the edges. As you can see below, the backing piece around where I would grab the pistol grip is gone. Everything around the pistol's grip is clear.

Come to think of it, the simple design of the Supertuck allows the owner to easily customize it. You can leave it as is, trim it a little, or trim it a lot. All you need is a razor blade. That's something I would not do to a fancy expensive pretty leather holster. I would just live with it.

Next, I shaved off the corner where my middle finger would go. It's that part by the trigger guard. The original corner was not an issue if I were just unholstering the pistol at the end of the day. But as I found out with my other holster, when you're drawing that pistol under pressure, you can't always guarantee a perfect grab. Sometimes your hand will be a little off. You can stand in front of that mirror and do three or four fast draws and your hand will land perfect each time. But try running around the bed between each draw and stand in a different position each time you draw. It's not that easy.

Lastly, the forward clip seems too far forward. I wish it were just a little bit closer to the Kydex body. Depending on my clothing that day, I carry anywhere from the 2:45 to 4:00 position. Being so far forward means that the bottom of the front clip sometimes stabs my leg when I sit down. The simple solution is to push the entire holster back a bit but sometimes the belt loops don't give you that option. As I stated earlier, all I need to do is drill a few holes closer to the Kydex body, move the clip, and trim off the excess backing piece. Again, I'm glad the Crossbreed Supertuck can be customized easily by clumsy deskjocks like me.

The Crossbreed Supertuck isn't pretty like the $100 Milt Sparks Versa Max 2 but it isn't really about looks. I choose my holster based on functionality and the $65 Supertuck is truly functional.

**Bycyclist** · 10-22-2007, 07:03 PM

Nice and thorough review.

On the grip, as I'm reaching for my grip, my thumb goes behind the leather backing and then easily goes on the left/rear of the slide as I'm drawing, so I've had no drawing issues there.

Likewise, I've found the kydex to be very fast and have use this holster extensively in high pressure class/concealed draw drills. I've only fumbled my draw once, but that was operator error (didn't rip the covering garment high enough).

Also agree with user customization - I asked Mark to put a couple of more holes so I'm able to adjust a bit more muzzle forward cant for my AIWB carry.

Fantastic, versatile, comfortable and highly concealable. Great value for the price.

Brush-Wolf-Lady · 10-22-2007, 07:31 PM

Where can 1 get this kydex material? I have plenty of nice cowhide, but that kydex looks to mold very nicely.

I could easily duplicate this holster, I just need dimensions and to see how the belt loop assembly is made. I can see myself now at the PA gun store looking at 1 of these and sneaking trying to take measurements and so on LOL, they have this huge selection of holsters there, and am sure they have 1 like this.

Quote:

Two clips are better than one! With a single clip holster, I found myself constantly adjusting it. Every time I stand up or sit down, my hand went right to the hip to make an adjustment. That's exactly how I figured out that this guy in front of me at the comedy theater was carrying. He kept adjusting his right hip every time we stood up during the applause. Two clips keeps things in place.

Heh, thats funny. I now try to see if I can see any imprinting or anything on men I see in PA now. But I can't have them seeing me doing this! Funny though how I started this habit! I don't bother looking in blahhhh Maryland though.

Sdevante · 10-22-2007, 07:47 PM

Thanks for the write up; Im trying to decide between a Supertuck and a High Noon Split Decision. This has been helpful.

propellerhead · 10-22-2007, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bycyclist

On the grip, as I'm reaching for my grip, my thumb goes behind the leather backing and then easily goes on the left/rear of the slide as I'm drawing, so I've had no drawing issues there.

Same here, for the most part. However there were a few times where my thumb landed right on the edge and it hurt. So I stared at it for a few minutes and realized that the extra leather wasn't really serving any purpose so off it went.

Yes, great value for the price that's hard to beat. It's the holster for the practical person.

lance22 · 10-23-2007, 01:06 PM

Cool - I'll probably get clubbed to death by the kydex makers for saying this but I *think* one of the benefits of getting a kydex holster is that you can mod it out if you want.

A little heat and you can change the cant, you can shave off material and streamline it, you can give it an offset ... it's lots of fun until you go too far and it breaks

.

Tim the Teacher · 10-23-2007, 07:21 PM

I've seen that particular holster somewhere before......

Looks like it found a good home

propellerhead · 10-23-2007, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim the Teacher

I've seen that particular holster somewhere before......

Looks like it found a good home

It sure did, Tim. Thanks again.

rgeliske · 10-24-2007, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brush-Wolf-Lady

Where can 1 get this kydex material? I have plenty of nice cowhide, but that kydex looks to mold very nicely.

I could easily duplicate this holster, I just need dimensions and to see how the belt loop assembly is made. I can see myself now at the PA gun store looking at 1 of these and sneaking trying to take measurements and so on LOL, they have this huge selection of holsters there, and am sure they have 1 like this.

Just Google Kydex but, here are a couple that sell in small quantities:

http://www.interstateplastics.com/ma...D=Kydex-Ca2009

http://knifekits.com/store/s-pages/k...main.htm~smain

propellerhead · 11-15-2007, 10:34 PM

UPDATE:

I used this holster at an IDPA match tonight and it performed great. Draws were quick and smooth. Having a clear area around the grip was perfect.

The only other mod I did was to trim some of the leather below the front clip. It was digging into my thigh when I sat down when I wear certain jeans. The placement of some belt loops forces me to wear the holster at the 2:45 position.

10-22-2007, 06:56 PM	#1
propellerhead XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Foat Wurth, TX Posts: 3,510	My modified Crossbreed Supertuck I bought a "barely used" Crossbreed Supertuck from a forum member and really like it. I've only worn it for a couple of weekends but it felt like I've had it for months. It didn't have a "getting used to it" phase. Here's what I like about it. Thickness. One thing that's important to me is the overall thickness. Holsters with a single clip right down the middle tend to be really thick. This makes it harder for me to conceal as the resulting bulge on my hip is rather large. Having the clips offset from the pistol keeps the overall thickness to a minimum. Compared to an all leather holster, the Crossbreed Supertuck's Kydex body even reduces that overall holster and gun thickness. Stability. Two clips are better than one! With a single clip holster, I found myself constantly adjusting it. Every time I stand up or sit down, my hand went right to the hip to make an adjustment. That's exactly how I figured out that this guy in front of me at the comedy theater was carrying. He kept adjusting his right hip every time we stood up during the applause. Two clips keeps things in place. Adjustability. The clips on the Supertuck can be placed in any one of four holes. That gives you 16 different possibilities. If the 16 settings on the Supertuck are not enough for you, you can easily drill a new hole. My previous holster had three mounting holes per clip for a total of nine settings and you couldn't really make new ones. Conformity. The leather back piece on the Supertuck is nice and pliable. It instantly molds to my hip like a glove. My other holster was rather stiff even though it was all leather. The stiffness always created this gap between my body and my waistband just in front of the pistol. I thought it would eventually bend but after months of carrying, it was still stiff. Where this matters a lot is in all day comfort. When you lean up against a wall with your IWB carry, do you feel like you are leaning against a wall with a beer bottle in your waistband? The backing piece on the Supertuck is thick enough to distribute the pressure yet pliable enough to conform to your body. Quick Draw. The Kydex body allows for a quick and easy draw. My previous all leather holster had a nice tight fit. I wrapped my pistol in a plastic grocery bag folded over a few times and I would leave it in the holster at night. It made the draw a little easier but only if you draw the pistol straight out. If you pulled on the pistol at an angle, it was really tough. I'm sure I could have stretched out the leather even more but then the pistol would fall out. The Kydex body always gives me that reassuring "click" when I holster it yet I can easily draw the pistol out even at odd angles. There were a couple of things that needed improvement. Just like my previous holster, the leather backing piece interfered with getting a good grip. I used it in an IDPA match and learned a lot about it. Look at the picture below to better understand what I'm talking about. During the IDPA match, I found myself jamming my thumb into the stiff leather backing piece at the top of the holster. My middle and ring fingers would sometimes hit the belt clip too. Having a clear area around the grip is essential to having a good firm grip on the pistol before drawing it out. I'm sure the same will happen with the Supertuck so I took a box cutter and trimmed the backing piece. After doing the big cuts, I used a Dremel tool with a sanding barrel to round off the edges. As you can see below, the backing piece around where I would grab the pistol grip is gone. Everything around the pistol's grip is clear. Come to think of it, the simple design of the Supertuck allows the owner to easily customize it. You can leave it as is, trim it a little, or trim it a lot. All you need is a razor blade. That's something I would not do to a fancy expensive pretty leather holster. I would just live with it. Next, I shaved off the corner where my middle finger would go. It's that part by the trigger guard. The original corner was not an issue if I were just unholstering the pistol at the end of the day. But as I found out with my other holster, when you're drawing that pistol under pressure, you can't always guarantee a perfect grab. Sometimes your hand will be a little off. You can stand in front of that mirror and do three or four fast draws and your hand will land perfect each time. But try running around the bed between each draw and stand in a different position each time you draw. It's not that easy. Lastly, the forward clip seems too far forward. I wish it were just a little bit closer to the Kydex body. Depending on my clothing that day, I carry anywhere from the 2:45 to 4:00 position. Being so far forward means that the bottom of the front clip sometimes stabs my leg when I sit down. The simple solution is to push the entire holster back a bit but sometimes the belt loops don't give you that option. As I stated earlier, all I need to do is drill a few holes closer to the Kydex body, move the clip, and trim off the excess backing piece. Again, I'm glad the Crossbreed Supertuck can be customized easily by clumsy deskjocks like me. The Crossbreed Supertuck isn't pretty like the $100 Milt Sparks Versa Max 2 but it isn't really about looks. I choose my holster based on functionality and the $65 Supertuck is truly functional. __________________ XD-9 Tactical for IDPA, XD-40 Subcompact for concealed carry, XD-45 Service for home defense. Three calibers, three models, three purposes. No compromises. Last edited by propellerhead : 11-01-2007 at 07:38 PM. Reason: Typos, fixed links to pics

10-22-2007, 07:03 PM	#2
Bycyclist XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NorCaliforneeya Posts: 1,826	Nice and thorough review. On the grip, as I'm reaching for my grip, my thumb goes behind the leather backing and then easily goes on the left/rear of the slide as I'm drawing, so I've had no drawing issues there. Likewise, I've found the kydex to be very fast and have use this holster extensively in high pressure class/concealed draw drills. I've only fumbled my draw once, but that was operator error (didn't rip the covering garment high enough). Also agree with user customization - I asked Mark to put a couple of more holes so I'm able to adjust a bit more muzzle forward cant for my AIWB carry. Fantastic, versatile, comfortable and highly concealable. Great value for the price. __________________ =============================================== BYcyclist - the worst day on a ride (or at the range) is better than the best day in the office ===============================================

10-22-2007, 07:47 PM	#4
Sdevante XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 167	Thanks for the write up; Im trying to decide between a Supertuck and a High Noon Split Decision. This has been helpful. __________________ XD40SC ----------------------------------- Wilderness Instructor Belt High Noon Holsters Closing Argument in Horsehide

10-23-2007, 01:06 PM	#6
lance22 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: MN Posts: 372	Cool - I'll probably get clubbed to death by the kydex makers for saying this but I think one of the benefits of getting a kydex holster is that you can mod it out if you want. A little heat and you can change the cant, you can shave off material and streamline it, you can give it an offset ... it's lots of fun until you go too far and it breaks . __________________ lance22 Minnesota

10-23-2007, 07:21 PM	#7
Tim the Teacher XDTalk Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Frisco, Texas Posts: 72	I've seen that particular holster somewhere before...... Looks like it found a good home __________________ XD9 Service bi-tone XD9sc black XD40sc bi-tone

11-15-2007, 10:34 PM	#10
propellerhead XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Foat Wurth, TX Posts: 3,510	UPDATE: I used this holster at an IDPA match tonight and it performed great. Draws were quick and smooth. Having a clear area around the grip was perfect. The only other mod I did was to trim some of the leather below the front clip. It was digging into my thigh when I sat down when I wear certain jeans. The placement of some belt loops forces me to wear the holster at the 2:45 position. __________________ XD-9 Tactical for IDPA, XD-40 Subcompact for concealed carry, XD-45 Service for home defense. Three calibers, three models, three purposes. No compromises.

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