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the_gunman1 · 07-10-2007, 02:03 PM

The X2 isn't half as good as the TLR-1. Streichers has the TLR-1 for $99 and it has twice the output and is built in an aluminum housing with an unconditional lifetime warranty.

Reno82 · 07-10-2007, 02:53 PM

Bougth my X2L Tactical Light w/ Laser at www.PistolGear.com for $180..... that's alot cheaper the local price at $269. Shipping was $5. Get it.. still there.

Mephis · 07-10-2007, 07:34 PM

http://www.dawsonprecision.com/Produ...001-1146757680
These seem pretty cheap.

I might get one after I get my sights. The cost of some of these lights is just stupid... $100 for a flash light? Honestly...

*Edit* Evidently it's $64 for the switch... And $240 for that light. Hahahah yea not exactly going to spend enough to buy a gun on a flashlight. After trying the glock tactical light I think it's about the best you're going to get for the money, and it also looks nice on XD tacticals.

the_gunman1 · 07-11-2007, 01:18 AM

It ok the TLR-1 will do everything the Surefire will at less than half the price. The MSR on the TLR-1 is $180 but they sell for $100-$110. It's extremely tough and durable and has a lifetime warranty. Not to mention it's 80 lumens (compared to a $250 X200's 60 lumens) with a 2.5 hour run time. Very high quality light. if $100 dollars seems expensive for a weapon light then you've never needed one to save the day before. It'll only take once to make you a believer!

XD9OD · 07-11-2007, 09:39 PM

here's the bigger h2x typhoon for a really good $$$---
http://www.botac.com/inh2xtyfl.html

a little bigger but removeable for hand use when a "loaded flashlight" is not necessary or just downright bad...

the_gunman1 · 07-11-2007, 10:26 PM

Another good light for long gun mounts is Wolf Eyes Raider with cree or without.

With Cree
https://www.pts-flashlights.com/prod...d=1-99-104-110

Regular incan lamp
https://www.pts-flashlights.com/prod...spx?uid=1-4-13

Either way it would be better to get the rechargeable model because you can switch out the rech batteries for CR123 batteries in case of an extended power outage.

Badshot · 07-13-2007, 01:02 PM

Wow, I'm amazed that no one even seems to realize that there is a whole 2 handed grip style based on holding the light and gun.

It's interesting for sure and rather viable is the reading I've done is anything close to right.

I think taking the SF listed costs as fact is a bit of a bad idea. Call Calvin at BrightFlashlights.com and you'll be surprised at how much below MSRP the x200's can be had for. Yet I use XML's and TRL-1's .. even though I'm a huge SF fan, they are just a bit too proud of some of their things.

GoCodeBravo · 07-13-2007, 01:16 PM

Hey, jtk...I thought the same thing a while back. However, after I found out they can be had - with rock solid quality - for about $100 plus tax, I looked into them some more. Then I re-read many LEO posts here on XDTalk about scenarios, room clearing, etc.

I bought the Streamlight TLR-1 and would recommend it to anyone on a budget or just starting out. I'm pretty sure you could pound nails with it, since it's all metal. Don't pay more than $129 no matter where you get one.

Here's why I would recommend anyone have one. Think about it this way, if you carry a pistol with a mounted light for (a) home defense or (b) a car gun then the merits are as follows in my humble opinion:

a. you can open doors with your free hand
b. you can move and shield loved ones with your free hand
c. you can use a phone (cell or home) with your free hand
d. you can flip on/off light switches...
e. you can re-load...
f. you can drive the car, in which case you should be getting the heck out of harm's way or heading to retrieve the long gun

You get the picture...bad things happen in broad day-light, but more frequently in the dark. If you have 5 seconds to grab your weapon and get your wits about you at night, why worry about fumbling for another tool?

Oh, and I always have a 2-cell (123a battery) flashlight handy in the car and on the nightstand for backup or for the wife (fixing to get another Streamlight Scorpion - 114 lumens, I think...best $35 you can spend for output)

larz · 07-13-2007, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reno82

Bougth my X2L Tactical Light w/ Laser at www.PistolGear.com for $180..... that's alot cheaper the local price at $269. Shipping was $5. Get it.. still there.

I ordered the X2L on Copsplus.com for $168.00 no shipping costs.

1Insight Technology IT-MTV-100-A1
X2L Sub Compact Tactical Laser Illuminator
$168.431 Items:$168.43Sales Tax:$0.00UPS Shipping:$0.00Order Total:$168.43

Mephis · 07-13-2007, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larz

I ordered the X2L on Copsplus.com for $168.00 no shipping costs.

1Insight Technology IT-MTV-100-A1
X2L Sub Compact Tactical Laser Illuminator
$168.431 Items:$168.43Sales Tax:$0.00UPS Shipping:$0.00Order Total:$168.43

http://www.dtdistributors.com/inx2lsubcota.html
You can get it for that price here too.

07-10-2007, 02:03 PM	#11
the_gunman1 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,019	The X2 isn't half as good as the TLR-1. Streichers has the TLR-1 for $99 and it has twice the output and is built in an aluminum housing with an unconditional lifetime warranty. __________________ Brian Freedom is expensive...pay up or shut up. "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." Last edited by the_gunman1; 07-10-2007 at 02:11 PM.

07-10-2007, 02:53 PM	#12
Reno82 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,331	X2L Tactical Light w/ Laser Bougth my X2L Tactical Light w/ Laser at www.PistolGear.com for $180..... that's alot cheaper the local price at $269. Shipping was $5. Get it.. still there. __________________ XD-45acp Service (Match Gun I changed it to a compact for CCW... did a grip chop on it) Ruger Mark III 22/45 Kimber SS Custom Target II 10mm Walther G22 (FUN GUN) XD-45acp Tactical (Match Gun II; upgraded the bbl from PistolGear) XD-9 Sub-Compact (Home Defense and CCW) DPMS AR-15: 9mm (1/17/08...) RRA CAR A4 Upper 223/5.56---did a lower bulid 6/3/08 and bought completed upper 2/21/08 S&W 642 38 special w/ CT grips (HD& CCW) Upper ALEX ARMS 19.5" 6.5 GRENDEL-order 9/9/08

07-10-2007, 07:34 PM	#13
Mephis XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 587	http://www.dawsonprecision.com/Produ...001-1146757680 These seem pretty cheap. I might get one after I get my sights. The cost of some of these lights is just stupid... $100 for a flash light? Honestly... Edit Evidently it's $64 for the switch... And $240 for that light. Hahahah yea not exactly going to spend enough to buy a gun on a flashlight. After trying the glock tactical light I think it's about the best you're going to get for the money, and it also looks nice on XD tacticals. __________________ All guns lost in tragic boating accident until 08 president is decided. Last edited by Mephis; 07-10-2007 at 07:42 PM.

07-11-2007, 01:18 AM	#14
the_gunman1 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,019	It ok the TLR-1 will do everything the Surefire will at less than half the price. The MSR on the TLR-1 is $180 but they sell for $100-$110. It's extremely tough and durable and has a lifetime warranty. Not to mention it's 80 lumens (compared to a $250 X200's 60 lumens) with a 2.5 hour run time. Very high quality light. if $100 dollars seems expensive for a weapon light then you've never needed one to save the day before. It'll only take once to make you a believer! __________________ Brian Freedom is expensive...pay up or shut up. "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." Last edited by the_gunman1; 07-11-2007 at 01:21 AM.

07-11-2007, 09:39 PM	#15
XD9OD XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: commonwealth of Ky Posts: 139	here's the bigger h2x typhoon for a really good $$$--- http://www.botac.com/inh2xtyfl.html a little bigger but removeable for hand use when a "loaded flashlight" is not necessary or just downright bad... __________________ SA XD9 Svc Truglo TFO Armory Kote Polished Bbl SD Carry Ammo: Federal Hydrashok 147gr JHP Lewis Machine & Tool AR-15 5.56nato Surefire 6PLED

07-11-2007, 10:26 PM	#16
the_gunman1 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,019	Another good light for long gun mounts is Wolf Eyes Raider with cree or without. With Cree https://www.pts-flashlights.com/prod...d=1-99-104-110 Regular incan lamp https://www.pts-flashlights.com/prod...spx?uid=1-4-13 Either way it would be better to get the rechargeable model because you can switch out the rech batteries for CR123 batteries in case of an extended power outage. __________________ Brian Freedom is expensive...pay up or shut up. "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

07-13-2007, 01:02 PM	#17
Badshot XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,433	Wow, I'm amazed that no one even seems to realize that there is a whole 2 handed grip style based on holding the light and gun. It's interesting for sure and rather viable is the reading I've done is anything close to right. I think taking the SF listed costs as fact is a bit of a bad idea. Call Calvin at BrightFlashlights.com and you'll be surprised at how much below MSRP the x200's can be had for. Yet I use XML's and TRL-1's .. even though I'm a huge SF fan, they are just a bit too proud of some of their things. __________________ --------------------- Stupidity should should be painful! On AR15's: Learn to use your Iron Sights before you go adding all that extra crap on your gun!

07-13-2007, 01:16 PM	#18
GoCodeBravo XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Harris County Posts: 206	Why I'm pro-Rail Mount Hey, jtk...I thought the same thing a while back. However, after I found out they can be had - with rock solid quality - for about $100 plus tax, I looked into them some more. Then I re-read many LEO posts here on XDTalk about scenarios, room clearing, etc. I bought the Streamlight TLR-1 and would recommend it to anyone on a budget or just starting out. I'm pretty sure you could pound nails with it, since it's all metal. Don't pay more than $129 no matter where you get one. Here's why I would recommend anyone have one. Think about it this way, if you carry a pistol with a mounted light for (a) home defense or (b) a car gun then the merits are as follows in my humble opinion: a. you can open doors with your free hand b. you can move and shield loved ones with your free hand c. you can use a phone (cell or home) with your free hand d. you can flip on/off light switches... e. you can re-load... f. you can drive the car, in which case you should be getting the heck out of harm's way or heading to retrieve the long gun You get the picture...bad things happen in broad day-light, but more frequently in the dark. If you have 5 seconds to grab your weapon and get your wits about you at night, why worry about fumbling for another tool? Oh, and I always have a 2-cell (123a battery) flashlight handy in the car and on the nightstand for backup or for the wife (fixing to get another Streamlight Scorpion - 114 lumens, I think...best $35 you can spend for output) Last edited by GoCodeBravo; 07-13-2007 at 01:20 PM.

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