Sight picture with TLR-2

[rickrsf]

Hi,

Just joined the forum and will be picking up my new XD 45 Service on Monday. I also ordered at Streamlight TLR 2 coming in about the same time.
This is my first rail gun (accessory mount) and I was wondering if you get a good sight picture with the TLR 2. I am planning to get night sites, but does the intensity of the light totally obliterate the stock sites on the XD.

Thanks,

Rick

[jednp]

I have the TLR-1, and the light makes no difference really on the sight picture. The only way I could think that you might not be able to get a sight picture... and no I haven't tried this, is aiming into the middle of nothing... no ground, grass, walls, people, nothing to reflect light back to you. It may be possible to not make out the sight picture then. But, as I've seen so far I am able to get a sight picture if using that light. You get quite a bit of light bouncing back off of objects generally if you are close enough to them, so it lights up around you some. But you still can make out the outline of the sights against the brightness of the light.

That being said, my gun being for home protection I am going to get night sights on it. I found a situation the other day where I could have easily identified a target as a threat, or family member, and I had no sight picture at all. I had dark behind me, behind the area a target would be, but with light coming from teh side out of a room onto the area the target would be. I had nothing to outline my sight picture against, just pitch black and no detail of how I actually was aimed. So I am definitely getting night sights on that gun.

but again, you shouldn't have a problem getting a sight picture while using the light. That's not to say that you will see the white dots... sometimes you might just barely, maybe even better than that, and sometimes you may not see them. but you should be able to make out the outline of the sights and tell that they are aligned.

[rickrsf]

Thanks jednp,

I had a feeling that you would be able to see the outline, but not sure if you could see the white dots. This gun would be for home protection and turned on momentarily for quick threat identification. I also know that in a darkened room the light is blindingly bright not only to the threat, but also to the user so having three glowing dots will really help in that situation

[The Knight Of Light]

Originally Posted by rickrsf

Thanks jednp,

I had a feeling that you would be able to see the outline, but not sure if you could see the white dots. This gun would be for home protection and turned on momentarily for quick threat identification. I also know that in a darkened room the light is blindingly bright not only to the threat, but also to the user so having three glowing dots will really help in that situation

The gun will be silhouetted against the light and you will be able to see you sights clearly. They will be all black if you have stock sights though. I don't know about the TFOs or other fiber optic sights though.

[nikon777]

Originally Posted by The Knight Of Light

The gun will be silhouetted against the light and you will be able to see you sights clearly. They will be all black if you have stock sights though. I don't know about the TFOs or other fiber optic sights though.

Exactly. It kinda makes night sights not REALLY necessary, simply align the sights against the silhouette.

[The Knight Of Light]

Originally Posted by nikon777

Exactly. It kinda makes night sights not REALLY necessary, simply align the sights against silhouette.

In your own home you really need stealth when you encounter bad guys so lighting up the whole room is bad IMHO. Night sights have their purpose. Also you should not rely on the weapon light as a search tool. ND can result from having tunnel vision as a result of the light.

[rickrsf]

Originally Posted by The Knight Of Light

In your own home you really need stealth when you encounter bad guys so lighting up the whole room is bad IMHO. Night sights have their purpose. Also you should not rely on the weapon light as a search tool. ND can result from having tunnel vision as a result of the light.

Point well taken. Is there a filter option for the TLR 2 in order to lessen the impact? Identifying a threat does not necessarily have to be with white light.

[nikon777]

Originally Posted by The Knight Of Light

In your own home you really need stealth when you encounter bad guys so lighting up the whole room is bad IMHO. Night sights have their purpose. Also you should not rely on the weapon light as a search tool. ND can result from having tunnel vision as a result of the light.

yes, but if u cant see your subject, what good are the glowing dots staring back at you.

[The Knight Of Light]

Originally Posted by nikon777

yes, but if u cant see your subject, what good are the glowing dots staring back at you.

If you are used to the lighting conditions then it is easier for you too spot the BG before he spots you. It is your house you should know all the fatal funnels and be able to lure the BG in. Also another good technique taught by Thunder ranch is to get one of those little LED keychain light, hide it in your hand to keep the light from giving you away and tossing it into the room the BG might be in. BG gets silhouetted, night vision is destroyed, and you remain in the dark. While he fumbles for the light or is distracted you can easily take the BG into custody or make the BG wish he had never come into your place! Try it some time.

This is the light.


Flick the little switch and toss into a dark room. It really does light up the room just enough. Then night sights can really do their job well.

[nikon777]

Originally Posted by The Knight Of Light

If you are used to the lighting conditions then it is easier for you too spot the BG before he spots you. It is your house you should know all the fatal funnels and be able to lure the BG in. Also another good technique taught by Thunder ranch is to get one of those little LED keychain light, hide it in your hand to keep the light from giving you away and tossing it into the room the BG might be in. BG gets silhouetted, night vision is destroyed, and you remain in the dark. While he fumbles for the light or is distracted you can easily take the BG into custody or make the BG wish he had never come into your place! Try it some time.

This is the light.


Flick the little switch and toss into a dark room. It really does light up the room just enough. Then night sights can really do their job well.

Nice. Not doubt this works, but seems to me id rather light the guy up..temporarily blinding him, and proceed to really light him up while hes momentarily incapacitated.