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TruPatriot · 08-07-2006, 08:20 PM

For a concealed carry weapon, is this recommended? If so, what recommendations?

CyberOtaku · 08-07-2006, 08:48 PM

If you choose to get a trigger job done, everyone here will almost unanimously recommend sending it to Rich and Canyon Creek. Those who have had it done generally hold it in the highest esteem. That's the easy part. Opinions as to whether a trigger job should be done on a carry weapons are somewhat more divided.

Reason against:
If the weapon is used in a self-defense situation the trigger job may be held against you, because the weapon is easier to fire.

Rebuttle:
The trigger job is irrelevant in a justified shooting since you had the intention to shoot. It could only be held against you in the case of an ND, because you did not have intention to shoot and the job made it easier to fire. Evidence to support the theory that a trigger job can get you in trouble in such a manner is somewhere between nonexistant to sparse.

That is the crux of the argument which will likely ensue. I expect that any real legal liability associated with a trigger job is virtually nill. If you want the job, get it. Many have stated a increase in accuracy due to the reduced weight and smoother action.

Neomet · 08-07-2006, 10:05 PM

An addendum to CyberOtaku's thoughts. I also got the trigger job so I could shoot as accurately as possible and put all three bullets in the BG instead of pulling my shot and hitting Sister Mary on the corner with a 230 grain HP. I have been trained to NEVER put my finger inside of the trigger guard unless I absolutely intend to hear a very loud bang shortly thereafter. Keeping the BG at bay or down on the gound with your finger on the trigger is a very bad thing just waiting to happen.

My opinion, and it is certainly a minority one, is that it doesn't matter if you have a 4 pound or 14 pound trigger. You just don't stick your finger in there unless you are fully engaged in the process of firing your weapon.

Shade Angel · 08-09-2006, 09:25 AM

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My opinion, and it is certainly a minority one, is that it doesn't matter if you have a 4 pound or 14 pound trigger. You just don't stick your finger in there unless you are fully engaged in the process of firing your weapon.

+1 That right there is the most important part

And what I really think it boils down to is if you’re comfortable with it. If you are I say go for it. I could not be happier with my trigger job (Springer Precision). But if getting one is going put a nagging voice in the back of your head and make you worry, don't do it. Whatever you decide just be sure to practice, practice, practice so you know YOUR gun.

spyderman2k4 · 08-09-2006, 03:25 PM

I've been VERY curious about this recently as well. In the next month I plan to buy my first handgun for concealed carry. I'm most likely going with the XD 45 service. The only thing I don't love about the gun is the trigger. I'm a much bigger fan of the single action pull (as I've used with 1911s). What all goes into a trigger job? Different things? I wouldn't mind a slightly lighter trigger (around 4 pounds). The main thing (and I don't know if this is part of what makes an XD an XD), is the long pull... all of the extra room that you pull the trigger untill you get pressure on it. This is a big reason why I started looking more at 1911s and less at Glocks, but now I'm going from 1911s to probably an XD. I know the mechanics are very different, but can I get a trigger job done that would make it feel more like that of a traditional single action? If so, any idea on cost? Thanks a ton in advance...

docrice · 08-09-2006, 03:55 PM

For questions on costs, current expected turnaround times, etc., give both of them a call:

http://www.canyoncreekcustom.com/
http://www.springerprecision.com/

I went with Springer Precision simply because his work is reversible (if I ever wanted to go back to stock for some odd reason), plus it was a little cheaper, and the turnaround time was a lot quicker. You can't lose either way. They both also do 1911s as well.

spyderman2k4 · 08-09-2006, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by docrice

For questions on costs, current expected turnaround times, etc., give both of them a call:

http://www.canyoncreekcustom.com/
http://www.springerprecision.com/

I went with Springer Precision simply because his work is reversible (if I ever wanted to go back to stock for some odd reason), plus it was a little cheaper, and the turnaround time was a lot quicker. You can't lose either way. They both also do 1911s as well.

Excellent, thanks a lot. I will certainly be looking into both.

Neomet · 08-09-2006, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by spyderman2k4

I've been VERY curious about this recently as well. In the next month I plan to buy my first handgun for concealed carry. I'm most likely going with the XD 45 service. The only thing I don't love about the gun is the trigger. I'm a much bigger fan of the single action pull (as I've used with 1911s). What all goes into a trigger job? Different things? I wouldn't mind a slightly lighter trigger (around 4 pounds). The main thing (and I don't know if this is part of what makes an XD an XD), is the long pull... all of the extra room that you pull the trigger untill you get pressure on it. This is a big reason why I started looking more at 1911s and less at Glocks, but now I'm going from 1911s to probably an XD. I know the mechanics are very different, but can I get a trigger job done that would make it feel more like that of a traditional single action? If so, any idea on cost? Thanks a ton in advance...

I will certainly vouch for Springer's work. Takeup is hugely reduced as is reset. To me, it completely changed the character of the trigger for the better. I'm picking up a 1911 in the next week or so and Scott is going to get my work for that gun as well.

I've heard nothing but praise for Canyon Creek as well, but no personal experience.

Ian Wendt · 08-09-2006, 07:34 PM

Has anybody had work done by both? I'm really curious as to what the difference is in their respective approaches.

spyderman2k4 · 08-09-2006, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Neomet

I will certainly vouch for Springer's work. Takeup is hugely reduced as is reset. To me, it completely changed the character of the trigger for the better. I'm picking up a 1911 in the next week or so and Scott is going to get my work for that gun as well.

I've heard nothing but praise for Canyon Creek as well, but no personal experience.

I'm sorry, I'm new and I'm not really familiar with "takeup" and "reset"? Could you explain that a little (sorry).

I too am interested in a comparison of each... might help me make my decision

08-07-2006, 08:20 PM	#1
TruPatriot XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northeast Texas Posts: 57	Pro's & Con's of a trigger job. For a concealed carry weapon, is this recommended? If so, what recommendations?

08-07-2006, 08:48 PM	#2
CyberOtaku XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 441	You've just opened a can of worms here. If you choose to get a trigger job done, everyone here will almost unanimously recommend sending it to Rich and Canyon Creek. Those who have had it done generally hold it in the highest esteem. That's the easy part. Opinions as to whether a trigger job should be done on a carry weapons are somewhat more divided. Reason against: If the weapon is used in a self-defense situation the trigger job may be held against you, because the weapon is easier to fire. Rebuttle: The trigger job is irrelevant in a justified shooting since you had the intention to shoot. It could only be held against you in the case of an ND, because you did not have intention to shoot and the job made it easier to fire. Evidence to support the theory that a trigger job can get you in trouble in such a manner is somewhere between nonexistant to sparse. That is the crux of the argument which will likely ensue. I expect that any real legal liability associated with a trigger job is virtually nill. If you want the job, get it. Many have stated a increase in accuracy due to the reduced weight and smoother action. __________________ Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. - Hanlon's Razor Insofar as we believe in morality we pass sentence on existence. - Friedrich Nietzsche

08-07-2006, 10:05 PM	#3
Neomet XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Made it to Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,402	An addendum to CyberOtaku's thoughts. I also got the trigger job so I could shoot as accurately as possible and put all three bullets in the BG instead of pulling my shot and hitting Sister Mary on the corner with a 230 grain HP. I have been trained to NEVER put my finger inside of the trigger guard unless I absolutely intend to hear a very loud bang shortly thereafter. Keeping the BG at bay or down on the gound with your finger on the trigger is a very bad thing just waiting to happen. My opinion, and it is certainly a minority one, is that it doesn't matter if you have a 4 pound or 14 pound trigger. You just don't stick your finger in there unless you are fully engaged in the process of firing your weapon. __________________ Who said that? Who the freak said that? Who's the slimy little communist $hit, twinkle-toed rocksucker down here who just signed his own death warrant? Nobody, huh? The fairy freaking godmother said it. Out-freaking-standing. I will PT you all until you freaking die!

08-09-2006, 03:55 PM	#6
docrice XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern CA Posts: 391	For questions on costs, current expected turnaround times, etc., give both of them a call: http://www.canyoncreekcustom.com/ http://www.springerprecision.com/ I went with Springer Precision simply because his work is reversible (if I ever wanted to go back to stock for some odd reason), plus it was a little cheaper, and the turnaround time was a lot quicker. You can't lose either way. They both also do 1911s as well. Last edited by docrice; 08-09-2006 at 03:57 PM.

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08-09-2006, 03:25 PM	#5
spyderman2k4 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,052	I've been VERY curious about this recently as well. In the next month I plan to buy my first handgun for concealed carry. I'm most likely going with the XD 45 service. The only thing I don't love about the gun is the trigger. I'm a much bigger fan of the single action pull (as I've used with 1911s). What all goes into a trigger job? Different things? I wouldn't mind a slightly lighter trigger (around 4 pounds). The main thing (and I don't know if this is part of what makes an XD an XD), is the long pull... all of the extra room that you pull the trigger untill you get pressure on it. This is a big reason why I started looking more at 1911s and less at Glocks, but now I'm going from 1911s to probably an XD. I know the mechanics are very different, but can I get a trigger job done that would make it feel more like that of a traditional single action? If so, any idea on cost? Thanks a ton in advance...

08-09-2006, 07:34 PM	#9
Ian Wendt XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 190	Has anybody had work done by both? I'm really curious as to what the difference is in their respective approaches.