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stickman483 · 05-31-2006, 11:12 PM

Okay, I know there are some fans of The "Answer" holster. My biggest hang-up with Kydex type holsters is weapon retention. To me, tension only style holsters (nearly all Kydex style ones especially) make it too easy to lose a firearm or for someone else to strip it from your holster. I have had a seat belt strip a XD magazine from a tension only holder (while my shirt was covering it even) and I immediately switched to a mag holder that had snaps. I'm not interested in arguments that one shouldn't allow themselves to be in a situation where someone else can make a grab for your gun and all that other bravado. Weapons retention and personal safety training is part of my life, but I am not so naive as to believe that makes me invulnerable to mistakes or the fact that sometimes bad stuff just happens.

ARE THERE VERY GOOD REASONS I SHOULD CONSIDER PURCHASING THIS HOLSTER DESPITE NO RETENTION STRAPS OF ANY KIND??

Rob Longenecker · 05-31-2006, 11:42 PM

Probably not, given your requirements. Seriously, no.
Most people have no probem with the retention of the Answer, but it is not snatch-proof.
Rob

**Frenchy** · 06-01-2006, 01:37 AM

I believe that the brand of Kydex holster make a big difference. I've used a Blade-Tech for 5 years+ and have never lost retention...And believe me...I've put it through Hell.
It isn't snatch proof, but a thumbsnap is your only option in this matter.

stickman483 · 06-01-2006, 03:35 AM

I'm not trying to criticize the holster-obviously it has everything most people want. Besides, no holster is truly snatch-proof. I do have to admit, I am a picky bastard, and this holster was as close to perfect as any Kydex type holster I have seen yet. And it comes so highly recommended too...thanks for being up front with me, Rob. I do appreciate it.

one-eyed-fatman · 06-01-2006, 04:56 AM

That holster is snatch resistant. If your doing your job and keeping your weapon concealed who's going to know it's there to snatch?

vafish · 06-01-2006, 06:13 AM

Thumbstraps don't make a gun snatch resistant, It is very easy and natural to release the thumbstrap while drawing, or snatching a gun.

And depending upon the maker of the holster a well made holster with tension only for retention will retain a gun better than a cheap holster with a thumbstrap. On a lot of inexpensive holsters with thumbstraps it's fairly easy to bump the thumbstrap and have it come undone. If there isn't some tension as well helping to retain the pistol it can still fall out easily.

Most decent kydex holster have a tension adjustment that allows the user to set how tight it is held.

Unless you get into a LE Duty type holster with Level 2 or Level 3 retention I don't think there is much difference between a properly adjusted tension only holster and a holster with a thumbstrap.

In the end you have to do what you are comfortable with. If you want a thumb strap and don't trust a holster without one you will not be comfortable with the Answer

**Frenchy** · 06-01-2006, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Longenecker

Probably not, given your requirements. Seriously, no.
Most people have no probem with the retention of the Answer, but it is not snatch-proof.
Rob

As many times as you have posted to this forum Rob, today was the first time I've actually looked at the Tucker website...Those holsters are beautiful!

stickman483 · 06-02-2006, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

That holster is snatch resistant. If your doing your job and keeping your weapon concealed who's going to know it's there to snatch?

The people I deal with from work. They are the primary reason I carry anyway. I like thumb breaks because it is one more thing to keep the weapon just where I want it. Even though a thumb break only offers marginal restraint, it is still more than if it wasn't there. Anything is better than nothing.

Rob Longenecker · 06-26-2006, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frenchy

As many times as you have posted to this forum Rob, today was the first time I've actually looked at the Tucker website...Those holsters are beautiful!

Thanks for the nice comments. I've updated the website in the last week to improve navigation and content.
Rob

stickman483 · 07-01-2006, 06:04 AM

Just so you know, I have not discounted purchasing the Answer, but the money situation has changed in the last week. After a good discussion with an instructor I admire and highly respect (he told me he is certain I would like the Kydex if I gave it a chance), I am about 90% certain I will purchase one eventually.

05-31-2006, 11:12 PM	#1
stickman483 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 655	Justification to purchase The "Answer" Holster-hav Okay, I know there are some fans of The "Answer" holster. My biggest hang-up with Kydex type holsters is weapon retention. To me, tension only style holsters (nearly all Kydex style ones especially) make it too easy to lose a firearm or for someone else to strip it from your holster. I have had a seat belt strip a XD magazine from a tension only holder (while my shirt was covering it even) and I immediately switched to a mag holder that had snaps. I'm not interested in arguments that one shouldn't allow themselves to be in a situation where someone else can make a grab for your gun and all that other bravado. Weapons retention and personal safety training is part of my life, but I am not so naive as to believe that makes me invulnerable to mistakes or the fact that sometimes bad stuff just happens. ARE THERE VERY GOOD REASONS I SHOULD CONSIDER PURCHASING THIS HOLSTER DESPITE NO RETENTION STRAPS OF ANY KIND?? __________________ "There are some things that it is better to begin than refuse, even though the end may be dark." Tolkien Duty Weapon: Para Ordnance 7.45 LDA Off Duty Weapon: XD-45 Compact Home Defense: XD .45 Tactical/TLR-1 and TFO's

05-31-2006, 11:42 PM	#2
Rob Longenecker XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 131	Probably not, given your requirements. Seriously, no. Most people have no probem with the retention of the Answer, but it is not snatch-proof. Rob __________________ www.tuckergunleather.com www.tuckergunleatherBLOG.com Tucker Silent Thunder IWB - Leather-Lined Kydex http://rlcompanyusa.stores.yahoo.net/sithiw.html

06-01-2006, 01:37 AM	#3
Frenchy XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mid-Missouri Posts: 14,839	I believe that the brand of Kydex holster make a big difference. I've used a Blade-Tech for 5 years+ and have never lost retention...And believe me...I've put it through Hell. It isn't snatch proof, but a thumbsnap is your only option in this matter. __________________ ~SC Harvey~ "The Republicans know we have a constitution, and they dismiss it with contempt and arrogance ... The Democrats simply never heard of it ..."--Livyjr-2008

06-01-2006, 03:35 AM	#4
stickman483 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 655	I'm not trying to criticize the holster-obviously it has everything most people want. Besides, no holster is truly snatch-proof. I do have to admit, I am a picky bastard, and this holster was as close to perfect as any Kydex type holster I have seen yet. And it comes so highly recommended too...thanks for being up front with me, Rob. I do appreciate it. __________________ "There are some things that it is better to begin than refuse, even though the end may be dark." Tolkien Duty Weapon: Para Ordnance 7.45 LDA Off Duty Weapon: XD-45 Compact Home Defense: XD .45 Tactical/TLR-1 and TFO's

06-01-2006, 04:56 AM	#5
one-eyed-fatman XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 10,741	That holster is snatch resistant. If your doing your job and keeping your weapon concealed who's going to know it's there to snatch? __________________ Never underestimate the power of a large group of fools. http://home.houston.rr.com/gunpics/images/one%20eye.wav This link no longer works due to a corporate buyout.

06-01-2006, 06:13 AM	#6
vafish XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,469	Thumbstraps don't make a gun snatch resistant, It is very easy and natural to release the thumbstrap while drawing, or snatching a gun. And depending upon the maker of the holster a well made holster with tension only for retention will retain a gun better than a cheap holster with a thumbstrap. On a lot of inexpensive holsters with thumbstraps it's fairly easy to bump the thumbstrap and have it come undone. If there isn't some tension as well helping to retain the pistol it can still fall out easily. Most decent kydex holster have a tension adjustment that allows the user to set how tight it is held. Unless you get into a LE Duty type holster with Level 2 or Level 3 retention I don't think there is much difference between a properly adjusted tension only holster and a holster with a thumbstrap. In the end you have to do what you are comfortable with. If you want a thumb strap and don't trust a holster without one you will not be comfortable with the Answer __________________ \"If your plan is for one year, plant rice. If your plan is for ten years, plant trees. If your plan is for one hundred years, educate children.\" -- Confucius

07-01-2006, 06:04 AM	#10
stickman483 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 655	Just so you know, I have not discounted purchasing the Answer, but the money situation has changed in the last week. After a good discussion with an instructor I admire and highly respect (he told me he is certain I would like the Kydex if I gave it a chance), I am about 90% certain I will purchase one eventually. __________________ "There are some things that it is better to begin than refuse, even though the end may be dark." Tolkien Duty Weapon: Para Ordnance 7.45 LDA Off Duty Weapon: XD-45 Compact Home Defense: XD .45 Tactical/TLR-1 and TFO's

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