US Felons Now 'Have the Right' to Own Guns for Self Defence - Court Cases

[eric_t12]

...last i checked THE RIGHT to keep and bear - it wasnt a privelege.


since they're felons should we also remove their right to habeas corpus?

what about free speech? ...they dont need that - they're criminals.





Look, a right is a right. If you can't trust them with a firearm -

WHY ARE THEY NOT IN PRISON!?

[afmo]

and last time i checked, you got to keep your RIGHTS as long as you played by the rules.

If you fail to play by the rules, there needs to be consequences for that. as well as incentives to abide by the rules.

do we really want paroled drug dealers to have legal access to guns? Take a look at felony convictions and repeat offenses and let me know how you feel about some of these people having legal access to guns.

[eric_t12]

Originally Posted by mp3mogul

We are now working on a pardon. A college kid shouldn't be punished for life because she wrote a bad check.

therein lies the perfect argument AGAINST the 'no guns for criminals' argument.



it sounds great - nobody wants a REAL, dangerous criminal with a gun.

the problem arises when they decide something completely harmless, like, say, carrying a firearm into a courtroom, becomes a felony. (not sure if it is, butthe point remains, you weren't going to hurt anyone.)

Why is there a punishment for hurting noone?


When the government is the arbiter of who can own a firearm (which is specifically written against the power of being able to do so) they can decide when and where, and how little you have to do to lose your 'right.'





remember, its aRIGHT to keep and bear.

not a privelege.

[rockerz71]

Originally Posted by eric_t12

...last i checked THE RIGHT to keep and bear - it wasnt a privelege.


since they're felons should we also remove their right to habeas corpus?

what about free speech? ...they dont need that - they're criminals.





Look, a right is a right. If you can't trust them with a firearm -

WHY ARE THEY NOT IN PRISON!?

+50billion

[eric_t12]

do we really want paroled drug dealers to have legal access to guns?

well, you're the one that paroled them.

and another thing, why was he dealing drugs? drugs are illegal too.

maybe if drugs were legal, he'd have no reason to take a gun to protect his already illegal cash cow.




besides, why did you let him go if you obviously weren't done punishing him? you paroled someone obviously not worthy of parole.


if someone is out of prison - they deserve the rights of everyone else out of prison. if prison is too full - maybe you should make more things legal that hurt noone, and leave prison for those who do hurt people.

you know...

like murderers, rapists, thieves.... those guys. not little billy from the corner, who sold drugs once and got a felony conviction cuz he had more than 2.3 ounces or whatever, now he's a hardened criminal from the slammer.

[PackerfanXD]

Originally Posted by rockerz71

+50billion

+50 billion and 1!

[afmo]

drugs hurt no one?

well, yeah, if you forget all the people accidentally killed by drug users, and all the crime it brings to the inner cities...

amazing the lengths some people will go to to apologize for felonies...

[HillViper87]

it only brings crime because they are illegal. how many people have been killed by people driving drunk or on the cell phone. im sure those were all accidents too the only difference between someone driving high and driving drunk is that pot is illegal. if it was made legal and sold in pharmacies or in liquor stores it would wipe out a lot of the inner city crime because people wouldnt have to rely on drug dealers

[bashman]

wow, what color is the sky in your world?

[afmo]

so thats what we've come to eh? The way to solve crime problems is to legalize the thing that people are breaking the law for....

oh my....