XD Talk

sd_shooter · 12-11-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WILDMAN442

You know, lots of guns have malfuntions. It happens. Even to dare i say it, Glocks....

What, you mean like this:

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**longtalltechsan** · 12-11-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MotoLex

Aww, he gave you "blessings".

Still doesn't seem to be aware that his beloved Glocks are H&K "knockoffs" though. . . .

Actually I wrote that to him that the HK VP70 was the first polymer framed gun and it came out in 1970. Here was his response:

My opinion of the XD, as stated in my email to you is that they are good
guns. And I acknowledged that the ones I reviewed were early models, making
them bug-prone. I can only review so many handguns, and the two I had did as
stated. That's all I have to go by, and if I get a chance to review another
one in the future, I'll report exactly what it does. As with any web sight,
I am limited by time and a multitude of handguns of multiple generations
that I can't get to.

I get the statement that you made below rather regularly, that GLOCK did not
invent the polymer framed handgun. And I never said they did. The first one
was a funky looking HK VP70. Google one, take a look at it and see if you
can find anybody who is copying that design. Then take a GLOCK 17 and see if
you find any guns with the main features of that one. Polymer frame, striker
fired, internal safeties, basic shape: Springfield XD, S&W Military and
Police, Taurus 24/7 and other Taurus handguns, even H&K followed GLOCK in
the now wildly popular design of these guns. GLOCK didn't invent them, but
they did start the revolution that has resulted in the multitude of GLOCK
lookalikes today.

Shooting phenom Rob Leatham (Springfield spokesman) is now claiming that the
XD-M is a "whole new category" of handgun. In fact it's just an XD with a
few additions.

My take on all handguns is that I like honesty from the manufacturers.
GLOCKS are not "perfect". Springfield hasn't invented anything new in the
XD. Ruger did not do anything remarkable with their new .380 LCP-they stole
the design of Kel-Tec and acted like they invented something new, S&W
Military and Police - again, nothing new, just more polymer. Sig handguns
are grossly over priced. On and on it goes.

I buy handguns with my own money. I shoot them for a while, review them, and
report on exactly how they perform. That's the best I can do with time and
money limited.

MR

Brickboy240 · 12-11-2008, 05:11 PM

Although I share his enthusiasm for the Glock 22...I knew he was a pinhead when he praised his Taurus 1911 and bashed the XD from the first sentance.

Ignore him...he's hardly worth fussing over! LOL

- brickboy240

XD-GEM · 12-11-2008, 05:30 PM

Well, all I've ever had through my XD was either Winchester or Blazer, just like him. Never had a failure to eject and none of my pins have come out. I did have some problem with the finish. After OCing the gun all day outside in extremely high humidity, I neglected to wipe it down at bedtime. Next morning there was a good bit of rust on the slide, but a quick wipe with a silicon rag took care of that.

cce1302 · 12-12-2008, 09:53 AM

Did any of you guys that emailed him let him know he was probably limp-wristing the XDs? As he admits, he has no firearm credentials (other than a fat wallet that allows him to buy and sell at will and host a website whereby he can distribute his ignorance) and may not be aware of what limp-wristing is.

sldghmr · 12-12-2008, 10:37 AM

I liked what he wrote, he shared his opinion on the XD vs. Glock. This is a XD forumn hence there is sure to be a resounding bias to the XD.

I own several guns from several manufactures. Each one is a tool, and has a specific job to do for me. I love my XD 45 Tac. I sold my XD 45 SC to buy a SA 1911 LW Champion Operator, because it was a better CCW 45 for me based on my criteria.

I also CCW a Glock 27, and carry it more the any of my Springfieds because it conceals better.

I'm a huge SA fan, but really appreciate hearing pro's & cons from real people who have spent their own money to invest in a tool. I rarely read a gun review in a gun rag that says anything like " I had many problems with this gun don't buy it".

Conversely I have bought guns based on gun reviews and had issues that cost me lots of money (ammo, holsters, and gun depreciation when I went to sell it), case and point the Kel-tec PF9.

This guy didn't post here. A member of this site posted his review, thank you for sharing someone elses outside opinion.

**MotoLex** · 12-12-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sldghmr

I sold my XD 45 SC to buy a . . . .

I wasn't aware that SA produced a XD 45 SC.
Perhaps you mean a XD45c or a XD40sc?

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This guy didn't post here. A member of this site posted his review, thank you for sharing someone elses outside opinion.

Is that a genuine thank you to the poster or just sarcasm?
If it's sarcasm you must realize that the written word makes it difficult to convey such subtleties.

sldghmr · 12-12-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MotoLex

I wasn't aware that SA produced a XD 45 SC.
Perhaps you mean a XD45c or a XD40sc?

Is that a genuine thank you to the poster or just sarcasm?
If it's sarcasm you must realize that the written word makes it difficult to convey such subtleties.

XD 45C was what I meant, and no sarcasm was implied.