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Pretty sure my rear sights are off (pictures)

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Old 12-02-2012, 07:00 PM   #1
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Pretty sure my rear sights are off (pictures)

I only have 250 rounds through the gun so far, and have only owned it for a few months. I just recently found out that the sights have little marks that indicate center alignment. Of the 250 previous rounds they have mostly been left. Some of that is due to operator error; I have no problem admitting that.

When I found out about the little marks on the sights I checked mine last night, and it appears that my rear sights are actually a little left. My front sights are perfectly centered in the marks. The rears are off; not by much, but are definitely not centered like the front sights. I haven't messed with the sights at all from the day I bought it. These are the factory aligned sights.

Let me know what you guys think from the picture (make sure to view it large), and would them being off this little really impact my accuracy negatively? Maybe not close up, but when shooting at something farther away? If the answer is yes they are off and need to be realigned... should I contact SA and send it in to have them look at it? I plan to replace the sights at some point in the future, but just haven't had the extra cash to spend on any yet.



Below is an image and a video of the two times I've taken it to the range with these factory sights shot at 10-15 yards.


Skip to the end to see the results on the target. Unless you really want to watch it.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:10 PM   #2
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You might have the dreaded low and left syndrome.
I think you just need to get accustomed to the XD trigger.

You could bump that rear sight over a tad to the right and it might help..
You always move the rear sight in the direction you need the bullet to go..

Do a search on low and left and you will find several threads on it...

"XDM Shooting Left" So It Looks Like About 46% Of Us Have This Problem

Also keep in mind the XD/XDm/XDs line is are combat pistols.
You're not going to get the groups you would get out a fine tuned 1911 or a good Sig for that matter....
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:21 PM   #3
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You might have the dreaded low and left syndrome.
I think you just need to get accustomed to the XD trigger.

You could bump that rear sight over a tad to the right and it might help..
You always move the rear sight in the direction you need the bullet to go..

Do a search on low and left and you will find several threads on it...

"XDM Shooting Left" So It Looks Like About 46% Of Us Have This Problem

Also keep in mind the XD/XDm/XDs line is are combat pistols.
You're not going to get the groups you would get out a fine tuned 1911 or a good Sig for that matter....
Thanks for the input, but I'm aware of the low/left issues others have posted about. I've read what seems like all the threads on them

However, my rear sights do appear to be off if they are supposed to be aligned within those tick marks. I'm wondering if they do actually negatively impact me that much by being off like they are even if it's just a little? I'm not even sure how to bump them over; I've read they are a pain in the ass to move. I might just stick it out until i buy new sights...
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:24 PM   #4
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Get a laser bore sighter for about 20 bucks and you'll know for sure.
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The targets you posted, are telling me that the pistol is more accurate than you are right now. Yes your rear Is off but you should still be able to shoot a good clean group. Once your groups are smaller and all in the same area then you will know it is really off. Even if you sights are off you should get a nice clean grouping and they will always be off in the same area of the target.

Your silhouette target looks like a trigger control issue more than anything else.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:29 PM   #6
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Looks like that sight drifted left then right then low then it came back up then the sight went right again and then back left......

Beat fundamentals into your head like a dead horse. Find your dominate eye. line those sights up and pull the trigger smoothly to the rear. Dont anticipate the recoil Dont try to force the gun to stay still when it fires. Dont flex your shooting hand.

Your doing good. Keep training.

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Speed = Technique (Grip, Stance, Breathing, etc.)
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Well looks like I should of refrained from posting my targets. Thanks for all the suggestions on what I should be doing to aim better, but I ALREADY KNOW I NEED TO PRACTICE MORE; so save your preaching please.

The issue that I'm trying to get an answer to is whether or not the the rear sight not being centered horizontally in the indicated tick marks will affect accuracy because they clearly are not centered? If, in everyone's opinion, it will not affect the accuracy then I won't worry about it.

Is there a thread on properly bore sighting a gun, and the needed equipment to do so?
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Those couple of thousandths of an inch won't produce that much change unless you're doing some real long range work beyond the weapon's capability anyway.
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I agree with everyone above..^

If your sights were to blame, then you would have tight groups all in one place on said target.
But being they are quite sporadic, I think you just need some more trigger time to hone your skills..

It happens to us all..

Shoot more and your groups will eventually tighten up..

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I didn't have a clue where my gun shot, XDM-40 3.8, until I got a chance to use a rest at the range. Once seated and comfy, I squeezed off 20 (or so). Aiming at 6 o'clock (Sight Image 1), I hit at 6 o'clock. Now I know where my gun shoots.



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