XD Talk

PBR · 02-09-2011, 06:33 PM

I want my XD 9 to shoot point of aim. Does anyone make a front sight for that?

shooter_ · 02-09-2011, 07:40 PM

Of course, but what is point of aim for you? Is it when the bullet hits at the very top of the front sight or when the bullet hits behind the dot on the front sight? It really depends on how you want to aim. Traditional target shooters use a six o' clock hold which means they place the sight below the bullseye and sight their guns in to hit above the front sight, this way they can see where they hit without moving the gun. Combat shooters like the bullet to hit where they place the front dot for faster target acquisition.

From the factory your gun shoots point of aim as Springfield defines as at the top edge of the front sight, similar to a six o' clock old. If you want the bullet to hit behind the dot then you you need to either raise the front sight or lower the rear sight. Or you could shoot at a target farther away where the ammunition you are using has dropped more in it's flight

. All of this of course depends on what ammo you are using, distance to target, ambient conditions, blah blah blah. IMO and many top competitive shooter's opinion an adjustable rear sight is absolutely necessary so your gun can be sighted in for your shooting style and all other variables. This also assumes you are trying to shoot 1 inch groups at 15 yards for fun like I do! Otherwise, if you are using your gun for defense only, one inch is not going to matter, just shoot the dot or the top of the front sight, whatever you like!

My .02

theg33k · 02-09-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PBR

I want my XD 9 to shoot point of aim. Does anyone make a front sight for that?

Your best bet is to look for some adjustable sights, then you can have them anywhere you want them.

Springfield-armory has a few options in their custom shop:

Dawson fully adjustable target sight set (No dots or inserts) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
1.
Dawson fully adjustable fiber optic sight set (Fiber optic inserts in front & rear sights, 3 dot system) . . . . . .
2.
Dawson fully adjustable tritium night sight set (3 green tritium dots) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
3.
Springfield CustomTM adjustable rear sight with matching front sight (No dots or inserts) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
4.
5. Springfield CustomTM adjustable rear sight with fiber optic front sight . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Springfield CustomTM adjustable rear sight with matching front sight (3 green tritium dot inserts) . . . . . . .
6.

AKC · 02-09-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shooter_

Of course, but what is point of aim for you? Is it when the bullet hits at the very top of the front sight or when the bullet hits behind the dot on the front sight? It really depends on how you want to aim. Traditional target shooters use a six o' clock hold which means they place the sight below the bullseye and sight their guns in to hit above the front sight, this way they can see where they hit without moving the gun. Combat shooters like the bullet to hit where they place the front dot for faster target acquisition.

From the factory your gun shoots point of aim as Springfield defines as at the top edge of the front sight, similar to a six o' clock old. If you want the bullet to hit behind the dot then you you need to either raise the front sight or lower the rear sight. Or you could shoot at a target farther away where the ammunition you are using has dropped more in it's flight

. All of this of course depends on what ammo you are using, distance to target, ambient conditions, blah blah blah. IMO and many top competitive shooter's opinion an adjustable rear sight is absolutely necessary so your gun can be sighted in for your shooting style and all other variables. This also assumes you are trying to shoot 1 inch groups at 15 yards for fun like I do! Otherwise, if you are using your gun for defense only, one inch is not going to matter, just shoot the dot or the top of the front sight, whatever you like!

My .02

Actually you are wrong on that. Sorry Shooter.

The XD is sighted in for 6 O'Clock. The XDM is sighted in at POA. They are different.

To answer the question. Yes you can change the way your sights line up. It just depends on if you want aftermarket or stock XD Sights. And it will also depend on you as a shooter to do your job. And you'll probably do better changing the rear sight not the front.

You may start here. There are stock and aftermarket sights.

Sight Profiles

**ajamesp51** · 02-09-2011, 08:27 PM

Best option is to get something adjustable then sight it in at your distance. But be aware that at other distances the impact will be different. This is why PPC shooters used to use sights that could be adjusted to 3 different distances, so when they moved from 7 to 15 to 25 plus yrds they could on the fly adjust the sight for that particular distance. But those guys and their guns could keep a one/two inch group at 25yrds.

shooter_ · 02-09-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AKC

Actually you are wrong on that. Sorry Shooter.

The XD is sighted in for 6 O'Clock. The XDM is sighted in at POA. They are different.

To answer the question. Yes you can change the way your sights line up. It just depends on if you want aftermarket or stock XD Sights. And it will also depend on you as a shooter to do your job. And you'll probably do better changing the rear sight not the front.

You may start here. There are stock and aftermarket sights.

Sight Profiles

Please explain what POA is then, because I can shoot either the XD or the XDm or my Glock where I point and aim, LOL. The confusion for many is caused how different manufactures define POA. For a Glock it is behind the front dot, for my XDm (like the picture in the manual) it is at the top of the front sight which can also be a six o' clock hold at a distance where the trajectory of the bullet is at the top of the arc. Why argue, the guns shoot the same every time you pull the trigger, it's up to the shooter to decide what works the best and adjust either how they aim or the sights.

AKC · 02-09-2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shooter_

Please explain what POA is then, because I can shoot either the XD or the XDm or my Glock where I point and aim, LOL. The confusion for many is caused how different manufactures define POA. For a Glock it is behind the front dot, for my XDm (like the picture in the manual) it is at the top of the front sight which can also be a six o' clock hold at a distance where the trajectory of the bullet is at the top of the arc. Why argue, the guns shoot the same every time you pull the trigger, it's up to the shooter to decide what works the best and adjust either how they aim or the sights.

Not arguing with you. Just pointing out that the XD and XDM manuals are different as far as sight picture. On the far left is the XD and the middle is the XDM POA=POI sighted at 25 yards. I've owned both guns as well. I was merely pointing out that you are mistaken on what SA says about the XD in the XD manual. No argument just a fact. The OP wants to change his XD fro 6 O'Clock to POA=POI. The middle one.