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Failure to Eject...

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Old 03-23-2010, 10:48 AM   #1
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Question Failure to Eject...

So I bought my XD 9 brand new about 2 weeks ago. Just took it to the range with a female friend and had a couple problems. She shot a total of 15 rounds through my XD, and managed to get a spent shell stuck in the breach twice. The 15 rounds were loaded into 3 separate mags, and two times the slide also failed to lock back on the final round. Including the 15 rounds my friend shot, my XD has a total of 200 rounds through it, all Blazer Brass FMJ. Of the 185 rounds I fired through it I never once had any type of malfunction.

So, my question is, should I be concerned? 2 FTEs and 2 failures to lock the slide back in 15 rounds kind of seems like a lot. I am quite positive she was limp wristing, but I have heard that XDs are supposed to preform flawlessly regardless of limp wristing. Or am I just worrying about it too much? Is this something that will go away after I break the gun in more?

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Old 03-23-2010, 10:58 AM   #2
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If you only had FTEs while she was firing then she probably was limp wristing. The key here is the slide wasn't locking back. that means thee wasn't enough force to fully compress the recoil spring (probably due to limp wristing). However, no gun is perfect. Now, I don't build XDs, but I would imagine a 9mm, having a weaker recoil, than a 40 or 45, would be more susceptible to limp wristing. I don't know if that is taken into account when the gun is engineered. Either way, like I said no gun is perfect and the XD will fire for you reliably all the time as long as you use it properly. I have 800 rounds thru mine and not one issue.

Here's a link for a video where various handguns are tested against limp wristing.
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:59 AM   #3
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I would guess limp wristing and a grip where her right thumb is touching the slid lock.

Did you watch her shoot and did her hand and/or arm come up much after each round fired?
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It's limp wristing and/or grip. Teach her how to shoot and teach her that she controls the gun. Through a process of elimination you know that if it's fine when you shoot it 9 times out of 10 it's user error.
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I would suspect Limpwristing also. That would also cause the slide not to lock back.

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The 9mm and .40 have the same recoil spring weight.
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I don't think she was touching the slide lock, but I did notice that the gun was traveling towards her horizontally a little after each shot, rather than rising up vertically, which made me assume limp wristing.
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It's limp wristing and/or grip. Teach her how to shoot and teach her that she controls the gun. Through a process of elimination you know that if it's fine when you shoot it 9 times out of 10 it's user error.
Once the gun is broken in will FTEs stop due to limp wristing, or is the 9mm round always susceptible to limp wristing regardless?
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All firearms are 'susceptible' to failure due to mishandling. Don't expect a gun to be capable of making up for poor technique. It is just a simple mechanical device. Any caliber or style can be effected in some manner.
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I would assume the 'weaker' the caliber, the softer the recoil spring. Like we all said. Train her on how to properly grip the pistol and her problems will stop.
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Nope, 9mm and 40 use the same spring weight. I suspect, they do it like glock, the heaver the caliber the heaver the slide. The spring weight stays the same for all calibers.
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