XD Talk

RonS · 01-14-2005, 04:30 PM

Like all large organizations, they have their issues. I felt better about them during the Heston years than I do now; I see a trend back to the insincere canned PR campaign style that turned me off years ago. Still, I've been a member most years since '73 and they have been pretty effective.

One good way to tell how good a friend is, is to see how much your enemies hate them, and the socialists and the media hate the NRA with a passion.

I do wish we could get the American Rifleman back to the quality of the magazines of the '50s and before. The articles then were better written, more original and better researched. Some of them were of a quality to match professional trade papers and scientific journals. Now its "the gun looks like this, we shot it, we liked it, it works pretty good for what it is, we sent it back."

papasmurf · 01-14-2005, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brian40

I support all they do. That being said, they annoy the hell out of me asking for money all the time and they keep asking you to renew a couple of months after you just did! Just ignore the mailings and enjoy the magazine and your 2nd ammendment rights!

Ditto

FatMatt1981 · 01-14-2005, 06:17 PM

[quote]"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out right ban,
picking up every one of them... "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,
"I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."
--U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), CBS-TV's "60 Minutes," 2/5/95

**** like that really really burns my butt...makes me think of nazi germany, or stalin's russia
I don't believe the federal govt. people reallize civil wars have been started over **** like that.....the redcoats found out as well what happens

CZAL · 01-14-2005, 07:58 PM

Only one answer to this one! Join! Let me repeat......Join!

The only game in town to protect your rights to keep your guns.

**AresXD40** · 01-14-2005, 09:01 PM

You can take my guns when you pull them from my cold dead hands.

Guns are a right, guarenteed by the constitution. NRA Life Member here, since I was very little.

chromechicken · 01-14-2005, 09:14 PM

Man, I really hate to be the ******* here.
I am not trying to start a war. This is only my experience and my opinion.

I was a member for several years, even when I really didn't have the money to renew. I would get letters in the mail CONSTANTLY asking for more money. Many of the envelopes were labeled "past due", like I wasn't paying my bills or something. Then there are the phone calls I get telling me that the UN wants to take my guns. I get the same calls with the same message for years. They'll use that until they come up with something else to scare money out of people people with.

It seems to me that if the NRA were actually a 2nd ammendment group, and a second ammendment group alone, why wouldn't they advocate one of the more pro-gun parties, like the libertarians or the constitution party(or whatever other parties are out there now)? Why wouldn't they push to have some other violation of our 2nd ammendment rights repealed, like the GCA of 1968 or the ban on automatics? The NRA bitched and moaned about the AWB, yet push to get a president re-elected that was in favor of the ban. They are a group promoting the Republican party, with a minor interest in firearms. That's just my opinion.

One could make the argument that they are pro-GOP because that is the most realistic way to go about it re-instating our gun rights. I say it's nothing but spineless compromise, and compromise is why we are in the position we are in now. The republican party knows that no matter what they do or say, the NRA will back them, and all of us who are gun-owning members of the GOP will still vote republican (just look at how we voted in the last election).

I mean no offense to anyone, it's just my poorly-written two cents.

**The Grand Pooh-Bah** · 01-14-2005, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CZAL

The only game in town to protect your rights to keep your guns.

Well not completly true.

I don't feel the NRA is nearly as effective as they once were. They are spending way too much time and money trying to get people to renew their membership. It seems like I get a letter per month from them with request and small bribes (gift items) to renew. Between the magazine subscription and all the mailing it doesn't leave much money for them to work with, like protecting my second amendment rights.

I found an alternative to the NRA. It is GOA Gun Owners of America. They don't wheel and deal like the NRA. They are a good old-fashioned meat & potatoes 2nd amendment protecting organization. You won't get a magazine or a ton of letters begging you to renew. They spend your money lobbing in D.C. not lobbing you to give them more… I pay my membership dues and gladly add more to the check for their effective work. Check them out at http://www.gunowners.org/

one-eyed-fatman · 01-14-2005, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chromechicken

Man, I really hate to be the ******* here.
I am not trying to start a war. This is only my experience and my opinion.

I was a member for several years, even when I really didn't have the money to renew. I would get letters in the mail CONSTANTLY asking for more money. Many of the envelopes were labeled "past due", like I wasn't paying my bills or something. Then there are the phone calls I get telling me that the UN wants to take my guns. I get the same calls with the same message for years. They'll use that until they come up with something else to scare money out of people people with.

It seems to me that if the NRA were actually a 2nd ammendment group, and a second ammendment group alone, why wouldn't they advocate one of the more pro-gun parties, like the libertarians or the constitution party(or whatever other parties are out there now)? Why wouldn't they push to have some other violation of our 2nd ammendment rights repealed, like the GCA of 1968 or the ban on automatics? The NRA bitched and moaned about the AWB, yet push to get a president re-elected that was in favor of the ban. They are a group promoting the Republican party, with a minor interest in firearms. That's just my opinion.

One could make the argument that they are pro-GOP because that is the most realistic way to go about it re-instating our gun rights. I say it's nothing but spineless compromise, and compromise is why we are in the position we are in now. The republican party knows that no matter what they do or say, the NRA will back them, and all of us who are gun-owning members of the GOP will still vote republican (just look at how we voted in the last election).

I mean no offense to anyone, it's just my poorly-written two cents.

Your Chromechicken, and I approve your message.

At one time I read a media report and it said the NRA was 30 million dollars in debt. Don't know if that was true. But if it was that tells me there is a lot of mismanagement going on in the NRA. I support guns and gun people but I don't support any business that continually harasses you for more money. If I'm going to support anyone it will be the TSRA.

Rich4444 · 01-15-2005, 12:52 AM

My local gun club requires its members to be nra members as well, costs me about $125 a year for both. well worth it, in my opinion, to have a great place to shoot and have someone doing what they can to preserve my right to do so. I just toss most of the mailings, except the ones saying I could win free guns, which would be nice.

**Old School** · 01-15-2005, 12:56 AM

If there was no NRA, I would assume gun ownership in this country would be far less than what it is today. This is why I am a proud member of the NRA.