15 round mags and 16 round mags. Wassup with that? - XDTalk Forums

Road Weazel · 12-02-2008, 03:27 AM

I recently bought a used XD9 Tactical and it came with two mags which look to be factory and hold 15 rounds, or so they say. I also just bought some mags from a forum member and they are factory and hold 16 rounds.
Why is there a difference?
Thanx.
Weazel, the XD n00b

wkalsobrook · 12-02-2008, 04:32 AM

i dont know but my 12 round mags for my 40 hold 13

**Spawnz** · 12-02-2008, 04:40 AM

I could be wrong.........I usually am. But I kind of remember someone saying on here that the 15 rounders were some of the earlier magazines put out by Springfield for the earlier versions of the XD. The newer ones are 16 rounds.

I am sure someone will be along to correct me.

**hobocircus** · 12-02-2008, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Spawnz

I could be wrong.........I usually am. But I kind of remember someone saying on here that the 15 rounders were some of the earlier magazines put out by Springfield for the earlier versions of the XD. The newer ones are 16 rounds.

I am sure someone will be along to correct me.

Nothing to correct. My XD-9 V-10 came with factory 10 rounders (assault weapons ban era mags). Then the ban faded away and I bought my XD-9 Tactical and it came with 15 round mags. Later I bought more mags and they were 16s. No mystery really, just the way it was.
Back in the day some users were tweaking 10 round .40 XD mags for use in their XD-9s. Tweaked capacity was something like 13

In the future the "tweaking" practice will probably start again

EME · 12-02-2008, 07:05 AM

I believe SA makes the 10 round magazines for New York, Calif. and the like, makes the 15 rounders for States as New Jersey, Maryland and the such, then they make the 16 rounders and above for the Free States.
Just my look at the the issue.

mcb · 12-02-2008, 08:56 AM

XD-9 10rd magazine use a solid follower (very similar to the follower the Berretta M-9/92 uses) and a spring with all the same width coils in a magazine tube with dimples to reduce capacity to only allows 10rds.

The original XD-9 15rd magazine used that same follower and spring in a magazine tube that did not have the dimples, thus 15rd capacity.

The orginal XD-40 12 rd magazine used a non-dimpled magazine tube with a hollow follower and a spring that had 4 narrow coils at the top that collapsed into the follower.

A bunch of XD owners discovered that if you put the XD-40 magazine follower and spring in an XD-9 15rd magazine tube you could get a magazine to hold 16rds of 9mm.

Springfield Armory and its supplier finally caught up with these owners and the birth of the 16rd XD-9 magazine happened. They simple put the follower and spring made originally for the XD-40 12rd magazine in a 9mm magazine tube and drilled a witness hole for the 16th round and there you go.

rambling
mcb

XD9OD · 12-02-2008, 01:55 PM

My first XD9 had a 15 and a 16rd mag with it. used. $365. Didn't care. I was armed

I found another 15rd mag for $10. snapped it up. I did discover at one time that the 16rd XD9 spring was shorter than the 10rd SC spring, so i stuffed it into the SC 10rd mag and it increased it's capacity to 11....12rd in a subbie. I promptly put the 10rd spring back in the gun when I sold it--grip chopped. I thought it was kinda funny why a 16rd mag had a shorter spring in it....16rd does weigh more than 10 by a several hundred grains depending on your carry ammo, so why have less feed capability?

Road Weazel · 12-02-2008, 02:05 PM

Wow, that's a lot of info. Thanx!
I took some pics of the two respective magazines and they are quite different. In the first two pics the 15 round magazine is on the left, 16 round on the right. In the last pic I flipped them...
Weazel

**coldsolderjoint** · 12-02-2008, 05:14 PM

I thought the 15 rounders were the older version.

In America (Not NJ).. more rounds are better.

The 15 rounders seem to be getting harder to find.. gotta find the once in awhile auction on gun broker.

It really sucks living here that I have to find older, obscure magazines to remain legal.

Road Weazel · 12-02-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by coldsolderjoint

I thought the 15 rounders were the older version.

In America (Not NJ).. more rounds are better.

The 15 rounders seem to be getting harder to find.. gotta find the once in awhile auction on gun broker.

It really sucks living here that I have to find older, obscure magazines to remain legal.

I spoke with a nice lady at Springfield today since I had questions about a 9mm 1911 of theirs that I picked up. She confirmed that the 15 round mags were older and that my XD was from '04, which would be 'older'. She also stated that 15 round mags were for New Jersey.
I supposed I'd sell my 15 round mags for the cost of replacement 16 round mags (or trade), but either way it really doesn't matter I suppose.
All the best.
Weazel

12-02-2008, 03:27 AM	#1
Road Weazel XDTalk Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 61	15 round mags and 16 round mags. Wassup with that? I recently bought a used XD9 Tactical and it came with two mags which look to be factory and hold 15 rounds, or so they say. I also just bought some mags from a forum member and they are factory and hold 16 rounds. Why is there a difference? Thanx. Weazel, the XD n00b __________________ Biker, Soldier, Educator, Lover of the Obscure... "Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country..." - Mark Twain
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12-02-2008, 04:32 AM	#2
wkalsobrook XDTalk Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: north west wa Posts: 96	i dont know but my 12 round mags for my 40 hold 13 __________________ keith
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12-02-2008, 04:40 AM	#3
Spawnz XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: OHIO Posts: 1,621	I could be wrong.........I usually am. But I kind of remember someone saying on here that the 15 rounders were some of the earlier magazines put out by Springfield for the earlier versions of the XD. The newer ones are 16 rounds. I am sure someone will be along to correct me.
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12-02-2008, 07:05 AM	#5
EME XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 123	I believe SA makes the 10 round magazines for New York, Calif. and the like, makes the 15 rounders for States as New Jersey, Maryland and the such, then they make the 16 rounders and above for the Free States. Just my look at the the issue.
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12-02-2008, 08:56 AM	#6
mcb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 2,199	XD-9 10rd magazine use a solid follower (very similar to the follower the Berretta M-9/92 uses) and a spring with all the same width coils in a magazine tube with dimples to reduce capacity to only allows 10rds. The original XD-9 15rd magazine used that same follower and spring in a magazine tube that did not have the dimples, thus 15rd capacity. The orginal XD-40 12 rd magazine used a non-dimpled magazine tube with a hollow follower and a spring that had 4 narrow coils at the top that collapsed into the follower. A bunch of XD owners discovered that if you put the XD-40 magazine follower and spring in an XD-9 15rd magazine tube you could get a magazine to hold 16rds of 9mm. Springfield Armory and its supplier finally caught up with these owners and the birth of the 16rd XD-9 magazine happened. They simple put the follower and spring made originally for the XD-40 12rd magazine in a 9mm magazine tube and drilled a witness hole for the 16th round and there you go. rambling mcb __________________ If at first you don't succeed; RELOAD _ _ _ _ My web site
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12-02-2008, 01:55 PM	#7
XD9OD XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: commonwealth of Ky Posts: 454	My first XD9 had a 15 and a 16rd mag with it. used. $365. Didn't care. I was armed I found another 15rd mag for $10. snapped it up. I did discover at one time that the 16rd XD9 spring was shorter than the 10rd SC spring, so i stuffed it into the SC 10rd mag and it increased it's capacity to 11....12rd in a subbie. I promptly put the 10rd spring back in the gun when I sold it--grip chopped. I thought it was kinda funny why a 16rd mag had a shorter spring in it....16rd does weigh more than 10 by a several hundred grains depending on your carry ammo, so why have less feed capability?
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12-02-2008, 02:05 PM	#8
Road Weazel XDTalk Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 61	Wow, that's a lot of info. Thanx! I took some pics of the two respective magazines and they are quite different. In the first two pics the 15 round magazine is on the left, 16 round on the right. In the last pic I flipped them... Weazel __________________ Biker, Soldier, Educator, Lover of the Obscure... "Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country..." - Mark Twain
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12-02-2008, 05:14 PM	#9
coldsolderjoint XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Middlesex County, NJ Posts: 731	I thought the 15 rounders were the older version. In America (Not NJ).. more rounds are better. The 15 rounders seem to be getting harder to find.. gotta find the once in awhile auction on gun broker. It really sucks living here that I have to find older, obscure magazines to remain legal.
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