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Old 08-22-2008, 12:07 PM   #11
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There's really no break in period but you will notice that the trigger gets a LOT better after 400-500 rounds. I shot ~500 rounds in the first day with my gun !! The old reloaders were sure happy that I came that day !!
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:41 PM   #12
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any maintainence issues i should be aware of? any little tricks or hints? i need to get a cleaning kit for it...all i have is my shot gun and rifle kit.
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Nothing special.

Just use a little CLP (Break Free is my preference) a rag , a bore brush (or my favorite, the Bore Snake), Q-tips, pipe cleaners and a toothbrush. You'll be just fine.
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Old 08-22-2008, 11:10 PM   #14
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Nope. It's super easy to do a field strip and clean it. Just clean it after every outing and have fun !!
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thanks guys...now all i got to do is get my lazy friends around and go shoot (they aren't really lazy...they all have girlfriends or wives and they cant come out and play as often anymore lol)
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thanks guys...now all i got to do is get my lazy friends around and go shoot (they aren't really lazy...they all have girlfriends or wives and they cant come out and play as often anymore lol)
I've got a few friends like that and it's sad. My girl loves to go out to the range.
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Old 08-23-2008, 10:03 AM   #17
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Break in periods are a farce.
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Break in periods are a farce.
True enough if all interacting surfaces within the trigger assembly are precision fit ... But when you're dealing with assembly line manufacturing techniques a slight roughness of mating parts will exist.

It's no different than the cam break-in process for a new engine ... The interacting parts will develop a wear pattern that allows them to mate more precisely than assembly line manufacturing processes can encompass.

Sitting in the house and dry firing will acomplish the same thing as a trip to the range ... Then again, a precision fit by a competent gunsmith will reduce the wear pattern mating to almost zero.

Bottonline, you are correct in stating that a manufacturer might delay the sending in of a firearm by stating shoot 500 rounds through it. But that assumption is based on real problems, and not poor/sloppy manufacturing techniques that leave a few rough edges.
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Hard-fit match 1911s are another story, but not entirely. Builders of match 1911s do most of the finishing touches by careful fitting and hand-cycling the heavily-oiled parts until they run smoothly. The first 150 rounds of ball should seat the parts and finish the process.
So .. 500 rounds "should seat the parts and finish the process" on assembly line builds.
I must agree that ... Quality is quality.

But calling a break-in period a farce is not always an accurate statement. It depends on the problem being experienced.
Cost cutting factors are IMO the primary reason for most of todays problems ... Society has been conditioned to expect this, so the manufacturer gives them what they expect.
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AZ,

You are talking 'trigger action' and I am talking 'reliable function'.

Dry-firing will, in some instances, help the trigger action a bit. I don't dispute that.

It also gets you real familiar with a particular gun's trigger and I suspect that has a much effect on how the trigger feels to you, as any smoothing of the interacting parts which actually occurs.
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I think there are some semantic issues here.

Break-in used to, with regard to cars, refer to a period of time where you were to drive the car carefully--no high speed runs, no jackrabbit starts, like that.

From what I've seen of these kinds of questions (break-in?), the posters seem to question whether there's a time of careful usage before they can just go at it.

It's a funny question, actually.

The answers people give mostly have to do with how long the gun will take to operate smoothly.

"Do I need to be careful breaking it in" is answered "No."

"Is there a break-in period" is answered "well, it takes a while to smooth out, but it will around 500 rounds."

So there is no break-in, but there is a period of time during which parts wills smooth out and mate better, and the trigger will smooth out.
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