My XD9 doesn't like Winchester ammo period! - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

LUV2SHOOT · 08-30-2005, 03:43 PM

I have been using both WWB in the 100 round packs from WalMat and 50 round packs from Academy Sports. Out of every 100-150 rounds I get 1-2 fte. Can fire 300 rounds of Blazer or other ammo no problems. The Winchester seems to be super dirty and the fte seem to happen near the end of the range session.
I clean my gun after every session including the extractor with a pipe cleaner. I fired some through my CZ-75 and had similar results. This is annoying but really bothers me is it won't feed my 127 gr. Ranger ammo either.
At first the ammo would nosedive into the feed ramp. I called SA and they sent me two 16 round mags. That ended the nosedive problems but If I fire 10-15 rounds of the Ranger I am still getting fte. Fired 15 rounds of Gold Dot 124 gr. +p without a hitch. I can see having problems with the WWB. But the Rangers are Nickel cased and everything. Any ideas?

L I N C H P I N · 08-30-2005, 04:36 PM

I have a XD-9 tactical, and it does not like WWB. I get at least 8-12 FTE, per box. I use Remington UMC green box or PMC 115 gr. Remi's, I buy them for $4.27 a box of 50. Here in Sugarland.

and it likes them both.

growler · 08-30-2005, 05:34 PM

I have a XD 9 service model. I have never had 1 problem feeding or extracting WWB, I have gone through 300 rounds of it so far.

retired · 08-30-2005, 05:44 PM

Well, here is one from the other side of the fence. I have never had one problem with WWB in my XD SC9 nor my Beretta 92f full size. When I have shot my Ranger Talon LE 147gr thru both I get the same results.

I'm no gun expert and I am in no way disparaging your cleaning skills, but might it be a problem with the weapon. Maybe send it to SA

These kind of threads have been here before and this is usually what occurs. Some have a problem, some don't. I wish you good luck.

Snake-eater 1 · 08-30-2005, 06:16 PM

It has been my experience with XDs in both 9mm and .40, and in both Service and Tactical models, that feeding and extraction problems often begin to appear after long shooting sessions (300-500 rounds) without cleaning. I don't think the problem is that the guns are dirty, but that the guns are without lubrication. These days, if I begin to have feeding or extraction problems, the first thing I do is put a drop of oil down each frame/slide rail. This almost always cures the problem, at least until I can do a complete cleaning and lubrication.

David_4 · 08-30-2005, 07:47 PM

I haven't had any problems with WWB in any guns I have used it in, including my 9mm Tactical. I hope I don't have any problems as I still have 2800 rounds of WWB in the closet.

Jon · 08-30-2005, 09:43 PM

9mm Tactical with roughly 3,000 rounds of WWB 115gr through it without a FTF. I do notice that on IDPA/Steel Challenge shoots, after 200 rounds and a good coating of the fine dust from the range the slide seems slugish when chambering the first round.

bluebomberx · 08-30-2005, 09:50 PM

I've put about 4800 rounds or so of WWB through my XD9 service model without a glitch.

SonnyD · 08-31-2005, 06:46 AM

I've got close to 10,000 rounds thru my Tactical and Sub, both in 9mm, and about 98% has been with WWB 100 round boxes....I have not had 1 single malfunction of any kind in either firearm. Most of my range sessions are 3-400 rounds.

I think If I were you, I would send it back to SA and let them take a look at it.
Regards Sonny

baa · 08-31-2005, 01:27 PM

Since this board turned me on to cheap 100 round boxes of WWB ammo from Wallymart, I have probably shot around 1200 rounds of WWB between XD-9 Service, XD-9 SC, and Taurus PT99. I have had 1 FTF with WWB and the PT99 (and it was wayyy dirty at the time) and found one round which was crimped badly and had to be tossed. I have had zero FTF or FTE issues with WWB and either of my XDs.

I guess YMMV with WWB. I am suprised your having problems with standard 9mm ball type ammo, period. My only FTF type problems with 9mms have been with hollow points and I have owned around 8 different 9mm pistols over the years. None of them had problems with 9mm FMJ type ammo. Go figure...

08-30-2005, 03:43 PM	#1
LUV2SHOOT XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 24	My XD9 doesn't like Winchester ammo period! I have been using both WWB in the 100 round packs from WalMat and 50 round packs from Academy Sports. Out of every 100-150 rounds I get 1-2 fte. Can fire 300 rounds of Blazer or other ammo no problems. The Winchester seems to be super dirty and the fte seem to happen near the end of the range session. I clean my gun after every session including the extractor with a pipe cleaner. I fired some through my CZ-75 and had similar results. This is annoying but really bothers me is it won't feed my 127 gr. Ranger ammo either. At first the ammo would nosedive into the feed ramp. I called SA and they sent me two 16 round mags. That ended the nosedive problems but If I fire 10-15 rounds of the Ranger I am still getting fte. Fired 15 rounds of Gold Dot 124 gr. +p without a hitch. I can see having problems with the WWB. But the Rangers are Nickel cased and everything. Any ideas?

08-30-2005, 04:36 PM	#2
L I N C H P I N XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sugarland ,Texas Posts: 260	I have a XD-9 tactical, and it does not like WWB. I get at least 8-12 FTE, per box. I use Remington UMC green box or PMC 115 gr. Remi's, I buy them for $4.27 a box of 50. Here in Sugarland. and it likes them both. __________________ Always remember, Shoot to live.... Never shoot to kill Texas XD Practical Shooters Association A LINCHPIN HOLDS WITHIN A MEANS TO AN END

08-30-2005, 06:16 PM	#5
Snake-eater 1 XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Quinque, VA Posts: 2,653	It has been my experience with XDs in both 9mm and .40, and in both Service and Tactical models, that feeding and extraction problems often begin to appear after long shooting sessions (300-500 rounds) without cleaning. I don't think the problem is that the guns are dirty, but that the guns are without lubrication. These days, if I begin to have feeding or extraction problems, the first thing I do is put a drop of oil down each frame/slide rail. This almost always cures the problem, at least until I can do a complete cleaning and lubrication. __________________ ----------------------------------------------- "Too soon, old. Too late, smart" anon

08-30-2005, 07:47 PM	#6
David_4 XDTalk Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Huber Heights, Ohio Posts: 83	I haven't had any problems with WWB in any guns I have used it in, including my 9mm Tactical. I hope I don't have any problems as I still have 2800 rounds of WWB in the closet. __________________ - David Foor

08-31-2005, 06:46 AM	#9
SonnyD XDTalk Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Overland Park, Kansas Posts: 64	I've got close to 10,000 rounds thru my Tactical and Sub, both in 9mm, and about 98% has been with WWB 100 round boxes....I have not had 1 single malfunction of any kind in either firearm. Most of my range sessions are 3-400 rounds. I think If I were you, I would send it back to SA and let them take a look at it. Regards Sonny __________________ 10MM Junkie.... RETIRED!!!

08-30-2005, 05:34 PM	#3
growler XDTalk Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SE Wisconsin Posts: 54	I have a XD 9 service model. I have never had 1 problem feeding or extracting WWB, I have gone through 300 rounds of it so far.

08-30-2005, 05:44 PM	#4
retired XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: S. Calif. Posts: 5,407	Well, here is one from the other side of the fence. I have never had one problem with WWB in my XD SC9 nor my Beretta 92f full size. When I have shot my Ranger Talon LE 147gr thru both I get the same results. I'm no gun expert and I am in no way disparaging your cleaning skills, but might it be a problem with the weapon. Maybe send it to SA These kind of threads have been here before and this is usually what occurs. Some have a problem, some don't. I wish you good luck.

08-30-2005, 09:43 PM	#7
Jon XDTalk Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 34	9mm Tactical with roughly 3,000 rounds of WWB 115gr through it without a FTF. I do notice that on IDPA/Steel Challenge shoots, after 200 rounds and a good coating of the fine dust from the range the slide seems slugish when chambering the first round.

08-30-2005, 09:50 PM	#8
bluebomberx XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 446	I've put about 4800 rounds or so of WWB through my XD9 service model without a glitch.

08-31-2005, 01:27 PM	#10
baa XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 209	Since this board turned me on to cheap 100 round boxes of WWB ammo from Wallymart, I have probably shot around 1200 rounds of WWB between XD-9 Service, XD-9 SC, and Taurus PT99. I have had 1 FTF with WWB and the PT99 (and it was wayyy dirty at the time) and found one round which was crimped badly and had to be tossed. I have had zero FTF or FTE issues with WWB and either of my XDs. I guess YMMV with WWB. I am suprised your having problems with standard 9mm ball type ammo, period. My only FTF type problems with 9mms have been with hollow points and I have owned around 8 different 9mm pistols over the years. None of them had problems with 9mm FMJ type ammo. Go figure... __________________ Baa!

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