Will the compacts or subcompacts be offered with a thumb safety? - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

Curtis · 08-06-2008, 01:18 PM

I thought I saw that some Service models were being introduced where there was an option of a thumb safety. My girlfriend thinks she might want to have a thumb safety on hers when she buys it, but the Service would have too large a grip for her to conceal comfortably.

I think that after training and pistol safety courses she'll be fine with the grip safety and the trigger setup though. But nonetheless, does anyone have word of any of those?

Also, what about compact XDM models? Are there any in the making?

ForTehNguyen · 08-06-2008, 02:22 PM

addition of thumb safety was mainly for the XD to be considered for LEO and military contracts, as the thumb safety is a prerequisite feature. I doubt military or LEO would want to use compacts and subcompacts, so I dont see thumb safety being made for them

**JAK** · 08-06-2008, 02:24 PM

Good luck in your quest for this information. SA is being pretty tight lipped about all future XD releases right now.

tialloydragon · 08-06-2008, 02:27 PM

there's really no need for a thumb safety on a gun that already has two external safeties and is meant for concealed carry. The addition of a thumb safety in an already ultra safe system is redundant, and constitutes something else one would have to fumble with in a life/death situation.

Besides, I don't think HS or Springfield are planning on putting thumb safeties on them, because, as stated above, the only reason they put it on the service models is to appease LEO and Military requirements.

jiffyloose · 08-06-2008, 02:32 PM

I don't mean to hijack but with respect to the thumb safety. I hear people saying all the time when you holster the gun keep your palm off of the grip safety so that way IF something is in the trigger guard it will not go BOOM! BUT what about when you UNHOLSTER it ....something is in the trigger caught up...now when you unholster if ( engaging the grip safety) the GUN will go BOOM...since the trigger safety is engaged.

I am interested in everyones take on this. Thumb safety would prevent this.

chaldean · 08-06-2008, 02:48 PM

i unholster without even touching the grip safety

KingWulfgar · 08-06-2008, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiffyloose

I don't mean to hijack but with respect to the thumb safety. I hear people saying all the time when you holster the gun keep your palm off of the grip safety so that way IF something is in the trigger guard it will not go BOOM! BUT what about when you UNHOLSTER it ....something is in the trigger caught up...now when you unholster if ( engaging the grip safety) the GUN will go BOOM...since the trigger safety is engaged.

I am interested in everyones take on this. Thumb safety would prevent this.

If something snagged on the way out of the holster, I would think it would pull in the opposite direction of the trigger pull just based on physics. Frankly--it doesn't concern me. If I'm pulling it to take it off, I'm careful. If I'm pulling it because I need it, it's not really a concern to me.

I have the XD45C and have never felt a moment's regret from not having a thumb safety. It's just one more thing to do before the gun is ready to go.

mp3mogul · 08-06-2008, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaldean

i unholster without even touching the grip safety

+1

jiffyloose · 08-06-2008, 08:18 PM

I will be purchasing one sub compact soon!

stbarsh · 08-06-2008, 09:16 PM

You'll love it!

08-06-2008, 01:18 PM	#1
Curtis XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: VA Posts: 188	Will the compacts or subcompacts be offered with a thumb safety? I thought I saw that some Service models were being introduced where there was an option of a thumb safety. My girlfriend thinks she might want to have a thumb safety on hers when she buys it, but the Service would have too large a grip for her to conceal comfortably. I think that after training and pistol safety courses she'll be fine with the grip safety and the trigger setup though. But nonetheless, does anyone have word of any of those? Also, what about compact XDM models? Are there any in the making?

08-06-2008, 02:22 PM	#2
ForTehNguyen XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,135	addition of thumb safety was mainly for the XD to be considered for LEO and military contracts, as the thumb safety is a prerequisite feature. I doubt military or LEO would want to use compacts and subcompacts, so I dont see thumb safety being made for them __________________ XD9 Service Black XD9 Subcompact x 2 Kimber Tactical Custom II AR15 16" Midlength AR15 16" Carbine Tacticooled Lancaster AK47 Remington 870 12ga Express

08-06-2008, 02:24 PM	#3
JAK XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 149	Good luck in your quest for this information. SA is being pretty tight lipped about all future XD releases right now. Last edited by JAK; 08-06-2008 at 02:32 PM.

08-06-2008, 02:32 PM	#5
jiffyloose XDTalk Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Western New York Posts: 53	Safeties. I don't mean to hijack but with respect to the thumb safety. I hear people saying all the time when you holster the gun keep your palm off of the grip safety so that way IF something is in the trigger guard it will not go BOOM! BUT what about when you UNHOLSTER it ....something is in the trigger caught up...now when you unholster if ( engaging the grip safety) the GUN will go BOOM...since the trigger safety is engaged. I am interested in everyones take on this. Thumb safety would prevent this.

08-06-2008, 08:18 PM	#9
jiffyloose XDTalk Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Western New York Posts: 53	Mind At Ease. I will be purchasing one sub compact soon!

08-06-2008, 02:27 PM	#4
tialloydragon XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Levittown Pa Posts: 190	there's really no need for a thumb safety on a gun that already has two external safeties and is meant for concealed carry. The addition of a thumb safety in an already ultra safe system is redundant, and constitutes something else one would have to fumble with in a life/death situation. Besides, I don't think HS or Springfield are planning on putting thumb safeties on them, because, as stated above, the only reason they put it on the service models is to appease LEO and Military requirements.

08-06-2008, 02:48 PM	#6
chaldean XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 269	i unholster without even touching the grip safety

08-06-2008, 09:16 PM	#10
stbarsh XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 216	You'll love it! __________________ Senator Orrin G. Hatch states: "They argue that the Second Amendment's words "right of the people" mean "a right of the state" — apparently overlooking the impact of those same words when used in the First and Fourth Amendments. The "right of the people" to assemble or to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures is not contested as an individual guarantee. Still they ignore consistency and claim that the right to "bear arms" relates only to military uses. "

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