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Old 08-24-2005, 09:00 PM   #1
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Shooting Low Left Help Me PLease!!!!!!!!!!

Alright guys I have put about 900 rounds through my XD and still I shoot Low Left. I do have that target thats shows im using to much trigger finger but even when I use less I still get the same result. Now I even had a shooting buddy prove that Its not the gun, He put five holes in my target at 10 yards you could cover with a half dollar. Maybe its my grip im very desprate to find out what my problem is. Any help is great

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Old 08-24-2005, 09:06 PM   #2
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low left

anticipation of recoil, load some snap caps in a loaded mag, with real ammo also,go shooting, and you will soon find out if and how much you are flinching
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:09 PM   #3
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Rec if you can find an instructor it will help a lot. The instructor will watch you shoot and figure out what your doing and help fix it.
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:09 PM   #4
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Try this. Posted by OEFM a while back. It's a correction chart. Print it out and take it to the range.

http://www.hs2000talk.com/viewtopic....rrection+chart
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You have to learn to pull the trigger straight back, with a consistant pressure.
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:33 PM   #6
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I used to have the same problem. Slapping the trigger.

In all honesty, dry fire drills helped me a lot, but the biggest help came from Rich at Canyon Creek. After he did his magic on my trigger, my shot placement has really improved.

You should come shoot with us some time. I'll let you try mine out. Check out the Texas XD Practical Shooters Association link in my sig for more info.
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:39 PM   #7
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I agree with the others that this sounds like a trigger control issue. You may need to slide a little more finger on the trigger (trigger closer to the knuckle).
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REC613,

I'm assuming you're right handed, so my guess is you're squeezing your whole hand as you pull the trigger.

Here's a test to see if that's the problem. Make sure the gun is unloaded (check it at least twice). In a safe area, assume your normal grip with the slide closed, and pick a spot nearby that you can aim at. Dry fire the gun and watch the sights and see if you pull the sights off the target low and left.

When you squeeze your whole hand, instead of pulling the trigger straight back and only using your trigger finger, your little finger and ring finger will pull the butt of the grip up and to the right, which will swing the muzzle low and to the left. This is a common problem and you can overcome it, with practice. It's natural to squeeze the whole hand, so you have to work to overcome that natural movement by training both your mind and hand muscles to only move the trigger finger, after getting a firm grip on the gun, but not moving the rest of the fingers while that trigger is being pulled.

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All great responses here.

Assuming you are a right-handed person, you are jerking your wrist in anticipation of the recoil. That should explain the vertical movement

On moving to the left, there could be a couple of reasons.
1. most common one is that you are pushing the trigger to the left as you are pulling it. Try to find the best spot on your trigger finger where you can consistently pull straight. Or just practice pulling straight.

2. another could be that if you are using both hands, your support hand(left hand) could be pulling a bit too much.

3. on occasion, some shooters have problem with their trigger finger staying on the side of the frame. This is similar to #1, but the problem is that your 3rd segment is too close to the frame. By allowing some lights to pass throught between your 3rd segment and the frame it might help.


On the advice of dry firing, make sure your gun is unloaded, and place live ammunitions in other room. Get some snap caps and then practice. your point is to make sure you do not jerk your gun while practicing.

Choose a safe spot in your house, and aim at one point. practice dry firing, with plenty of time. You want to build muscle memory. One thing you can do to make it more interesting is to place a dime or a nickle on top of front sight, and dry fire until they do not fall down. Not wasy, but something to give a shot at.

When you are comfortable with dry firing practice, you have to have mind set that the bullet going off is not going to scare you. Let it happen.

On the range, instead of hundereds of rounds every visit, try 50-100 rounds per week. Practice makes perfect, but only a Perfect practice will.

Sometimes, it is advisable to go and practice using your .22 to brush up on the fundamentals.
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I agree with AJames on the instruction.

If you can find an instructor it's the best thing you can do. Spending $50 on a lesson will do a whole lot more than the sure $50 you will spend on ammo trying to figure it out by trial and error.

Everything said is true, but a lesson cuts through to your specific problem real fast.

I started shooting in the army 35 years ago. I shot a whole lot for a while about 20 years ago.

I took a lesson a few months ago and in one hour I improved big time. I was very accurate with my .22 and even with my XD, but was having trouble with my .45, so I took the lesson with that gun. Made all the difference in the world. Also helped me shooting the other guns.

And yeah, I was low left with the .45, and I knew it was an anticipation problem. What resolved it was not mentioned in this thread. No reason it would be...it was just something I needed to do.

The instructor had me change my basic grip from "combat" to "target", and I didn't even know there was a difference. That alone helped. But there was more. None of it anything I would have ever figured out without the lesson.

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