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Old 07-23-2008, 02:20 PM   #71
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No disrespect taken. I'm all for having fun, all the while keeping safe. I'm sure everyone would hate to see fun turn into tragedy.

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Old 07-23-2008, 02:34 PM   #72
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ah this thread is aggravating

Oh well. no harm in debate I guess.
It comes down to each his/her own.
Their firearm, their ammo. As far as the dangers and comparisons I'd actually bet there is more potential to harm shooting a steel plate at a range than bump firing into the dirt somewhere. I've yet to ever hear of a bump fire accident but have heard, seen and been involved in steel plate ricochets

I don't bump fire that much at all anymore because I don't have the spare ammo. But I really don't see the big deal and I reaaaaaaaaaaally don't think it helps or aids any Politician or Governments anti-gun agenda either. Even during the ban in the 90's bump fire aids were still at just about every gun show or available online.

Dunno. everyone has an opinion I guess.
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:18 PM   #73
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ok BREE ill be technically correct, i am pushing the trigger with my finger not pulling it, i am pushing the handgun forward and my thumb is static, so maybe i should register my thumb as an assisted bump firing device as well as my belt loop. the trigger is being manipulated each time, the damn thing isnt slam firing, or none of the parts, sear, disconnnector, etc are modified. i fail to see where you are coming from. now if i filed the sear down and made the gun slamfire each time i pulled the trigger then you can preach to me about the anti's, safety issues, and the fact that i am going to prison for modding my trigger group. again like stated, i am a GROWN ASS MAN, or at least the last time i checked i was, i would not try something that i know exceeds my physical and mental limitations. now if i was in my back yard bumping or somewhere that was not safe i see the point. i was firing at a hill of dirt, or the backstop of the range the thing is like 20 feet high and there are nothing but mountains in the back, no other shooters were present, so i thought it was safe. not that im scared to bump fire in front of people, but i know it makes people nervous, actually all the people who have seen me ask me how to do it, even the cops! i had two officers in uniform come over to me one day and pick up my rifle, without permission and start looking it over, i opened her up and said "see its semi auto." in a smart ass way all they could do was put my rifle back down and walk away.
i like this discussion. oh yeah and expect alot more vids of me bump firing when i go to the range this weekend. complain to youtube that has vids posting step by step how to bump fire
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Bump firing is the act of using the recoil of a firearm with or without a stock to fire multiple rounds in rapid succession. This process is achieved by holding the firearm in a normal firing position, releasing the grip on the firing hand (leaving the trigger finger in its normal position), pushing the rifle forward in order to apply pressure on the trigger finger from the trigger, and keeping the trigger finger near the same position. Since the firearm will recoil against the shoulder and then return to its previous position after the round has been fired -- thus pushing the trigger against the trigger finger again -- large bursts can be fired.
The rapid bursts from semi-automatic firearms simulate the discharge of automatic firearms which were regulated and banned in America by the National Firearms Act and the Firearm Owners Protection Act, respectively. Even though a large number of rounds are fired in rapid succession, the trigger finger initiates each discharge; therefore, fully automatic fire is not actually taking place.
One method of "bump firing" is to hold the rifle with the off-hand (non trigger hand) and instead of gripping it with the trigger hand, only inserting the forefinger in front of the trigger. In order to achieve the rapid fire succession, the shooter continuously pulls the rifle forward with the off-hand while holding the trigger finger stationary such that the trigger is pulled into the forefinger. The recoil will pull the rifle backwards as the off-hand pulls it forwards. A new round will be chambered before the weapon is pulled back into the stationary trigger finger.
Devices, such as Tac triggers, can greatly assist a person in bump firing a semi- automatic firearm. These triggers attach on to a firearm's trigger guard and put tension on the back of the trigger which forces it to rebound much more easily off a person's finger. An even simpler method, which works better with AR- 15 rifles, is to use a rubber band and wrap it around the trigger guard. This works just as well as the Tac triggers but does not cost $40.00, as Tac triggers normally cost. With these devices a person can bump fire a firearm from almost any position just like a regular automatic firearm. However, not all devices that facilitate bump firing are legal. A famous example is the case of the Akins Accelerator for the Ruger 10/22. Though the BATFE initially allowed mechanical devices for producing rapid fire, this ruling has since been reversed and currently the device is illegal.[1]
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Go tell it to these guys!!
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I see people shooting fast, drawing fast and just plain old showing off.

What was it, about a week ago that you chimed in telling people to stop giving another member a hard time because they stirred the pot and played devils advocate ??

Nothing wrong with that, but your approach is ... Wow, Obama really does have you upset

So ... OBAMA SUCKS .. DEFEND HIM

Also, jrad38's first post was an agreement with you ... Maybe you should have resisted commenting back in June. Like I did
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The original post was about a video which has a controversial content. I have never forced my opinion on anyone. I originally offered it and let it go at that. You guys jumped on jrad38 and I defended him.

So far it is all fair game within the TOS.
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Everyone needs to relax just a little bit...just a little.. I disagree with bump firing.. but that is my opinion. Bree is just stating that more and more people start to bump fire its going to draw attention to the wrong crowds. Anti's and gang bangers and everyone else who has not learned their limits. 99% of the people on organized forums have the same goals in mind. I dont doubt for one minute you guys are not taking a little extra precautions from being reckless. However, 90% of the punk adults seeing these videos are going to copy in their next outing or whatever. Adults are always going to have younger people around idolizing them for one reason or another and sooner or later your going to get 12-13 yr olds bump firing their brothers gun to show off and someone is going to get hurt. This isnt what ANYONE wants.

I understand its not the tool its the education level of the individual. If you do it enough you can start to control it to a certain amount but not nearly as controlled as a proper grip and technique firing it as fast as you can. Firing rapidly is not even in the same boat as bump firing. Your only control is one hand and depending on how you are holding the gun which really isnt truly a "proper" grip for rapid fire even tho you might hit the piece of paper from 3 feet out.

Yes, you "ALL" are right, Its not against the law, its their ammo, their prerogative.
Its not the way the weapon was intended to be used and can influence all the wrong people, just like everything else in the world.

No one should be getting upset, its just a difference in opinions and views.

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true true but im not advocating bump firing. true true that other people/kids are gonna try it and someone is gonna get hurt, but like they say "you cant fix stupid"
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So you're saying only uneducated people bump fire?
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This thread is going no where fast ...
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it isnt. but i like the discussion, no one is taking offense, agalindo is my dad and we talked about it after work. all opinions are welcome just as long as no one takes offense. this thread got about 700 more hits just with all the opinions flying around.
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