XD Bump Fire

[1lowlife]

TOTP

Originally Posted by Bree

If it were up to me and I were moderating the forum, I would 86 anything having to do with converting a semi-automatic weapon into a weapon exhibiting full auto operation whether by modification or technique. I would do so not because of politics but because of self protection. I would not want the liability exposure of making this kind of content available.

Well I thank God it isn't up to you...

Or else this forum would be nothing but 45ACP talk ..........

Do you really feel HTOWN stunna's video will be the main topic of Obama's platform??

I feel his right to post it overrides your desire to ban it.......

I understand your point but your wishes are a bit too close to censorship for me..

You don't like it so it shouldn't be shown????????

Let the boyz have their fun already........

[Jimlakeside]

Hope you reload!! Any idea how many round per minute you can shoot that way?

[agalindo]

Originally Posted by Bree

If it were up to me and I were moderating the forum, I would 86 anything having to do with converting a semi-automatic weapon into a weapon exhibiting full auto operation whether by modification or technique. I would do so not because of politics but because of self protection. I would not want the liability exposure of making this kind of content available.

Sorry to rain on the parade. I had dropped it and moved on but you guys opened the door again defending this questionable practice.

Thank God it's not up to you. You were also discussing, on another thread, how people should have to pass a test before being allowed to own firearms. So you're idea of pro 2A is "only people I feel worthy should own guns, and they should do exactly as I say" sounds a lot like the anties to me.
If it's legal there's nothing wrong in doing it. Catering to the antis and being afraid of what they will say, or think is giving up your rights. Let's hope you are never given the privilege to moderate a firearms related board. I've seen several posts on this board where you have mentioned "if I was moderator" or worst I seen you moderate some threads. I think were on a power trip.

[Bree]

Originally Posted by agalindo

Thank God it's not up to you. You were also discussing, on another thread, how people should have to pass a test before being allowed to own firearms. So you're idea of pro 2A is "only people I feel worthy should own guns, and they should do exactly as I say" sounds a lot like the anties to me.
If it's legal there's nothing wrong in doing it. Catering to the antis and being afraid of what they will say, or think is giving up your rights. Let's hope you are never given the privilege to moderate a firearms related board. I've seen several posts on this board where you have mentioned "if I was moderator" or worst I seen you moderate some threads. I think were on a power trip.

Be happy it is not up to me. Because I would 86 the full auto stuff in a heartbeat. When I see a thirteen year old kid bump firing an AR 15 at a cyclic rate equal to or greater than that of an M-16 something is messed up. It isn't about 2nd amendment. It's about common sense. It is also about compliance with laws regulating fully automatic weapons.

Bumping is technically not against those laws but it is dangerously close. The ATF rulings on 2 assisted bump firing devices should put you on the alert. ATF prosecutions of people involved in slam fires should put you on notice. Bumping may not violate the letter of the law but it sure violates the spirit of the law. And you do it at some risk... make no mistake about that. When they hear the pop-pop-pop-pop-pop of what seems to be automatic fire... the authorities come running.

The fact that something is not illegal doesn't mean that you should do it. And I assure you that if you guys put bumping on the radar screen it will be illegal soon enough. Not because of me. Because of Antis and the arrogance of bumpers who flaunt a technique that skirts the law.

I am not an anti. I own many firearms and shoot regularly. I am a member of a gun club. I participate in several gun forums. I have an unrestricted carry permit in a place where you must prove cause to get one. I am certainly not an anti. I just want to protect what I have and you aren't helping with this dumb practice.

As far as passing a test to own a firearm? I don't recall the thread you are talking about but I would not be opposed to requiring knowledge of proper gun safety and handling for firearms owners. Hell you have to pass a test to drive a car. Why not pass a test on properly handling your firearm? Are you afraid that you might not pass? I'm not. I would take a test any day of the week. I have taken a test! I passed. No big deal.

This isn't about Bree it is about the wisdom of simulating fully automatic fire through the technique of "bumping". So focus on the issue... not on me. Focus on the message not the messenger. Focusing on the messenger is called in logic... the fallacy of "argumentum ad hominem".

[agalindo]

It is about you. About you forcing your opinions on other people, on you bucking for a mod position on this board. The original post was never "let debate simulating fully automatic fire through the technique of "bumping"".

[Bree]

Originally Posted by agalindo

It is about you. About you forcing your opinions on other people, on you bucking for a mod position on this board. The original post was never "let debate simulating fully automatic fire through the technique of "bumping"".

I am not a mod here, don't want to be one, and wouldn't accept if offered the job.

The original post was about a video which has a controversial content. I have never forced my opinion on anyone. I originally offered it and let it go at that. You guys jumped on jrad38 and I defended him.

So far it is all fair game within the TOS.

[nothingness]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Obviously you dislike and want the ban of bump firing. I wouldn't go as far as to say it fuels Obamas fire. That would be kinda naive. He wants the all out ban of everything firearm and I doubt if everyone stopped bumpfiring tomorrow he'd wake up and have a change of heart about the 2A.
I've had a hellfire system on a rifle since about 1993, those really didn't have anything to do with the Clinton ban either. Parts of the Government have their agendas and if we all started shooting 56 inch long .22 short single shots today, they'd still want them gone.
Sorta like the U.K and their ban and now all their "Knife" ban talk. but all of that is also just my opinion. And about opinions, the poster who brought this back up has a right to his yes, I said that earlier..I jus didn't see the point in a total of 3 posts, use 2 of them to judge a long time member and bring up an older thread just based on negativity. Is it against the rules to do that? No. But it's kinda lame.

I wouldn't compare sport bikes to it either, doing 200 on the highway is just stupid and if you lose it, end up splattered in a mile radius- Not to mention high possibility of causing accidents to others. Bump firing is usually just done infront of you into the ground and makes you giggle (and ammo broke $$).

Cheers!

[Natureboypkr]

I guess everyone must have forgot, anti's think nearly every gun is a machine gun. So I guess we have to revert to musketts.

[bashman]

Originally Posted by Bree

Bumping is no different than taking a crotch rocket out on a US public highway at 200 mph. Yes... you can do it. Yes... it is fun. And yes no responsible rider should ever do it.

Actually, it is different. Going 200 mph on a public highway is illegal, whereas firing one round for every pull of the trigger is not.
And if you want to compare the two, I would rather have a responsible shooter bump-firing rather than an irresponsible one.

Originally Posted by Bree

If it were up to me and I were moderating the forum, I would 86 anything having to do with converting a semi-automatic weapon into a weapon exhibiting full auto operation whether by modification or technique. I would do so not because of politics but because of self protection. I would not want the liability exposure of making this kind of content available.

So you would ban videos of Jerry Miculek, Rob Leatham, Todd Jarrett, KC Eusebio (the list of shooters who can shoot extremely fast is very long) shooting rounds almost as fast as a full auto weapon? Whenever any of these shooters are on top of their game, they "exhibit full auto operation" from their weapons "by technique". Of course, they aren't fully automatic, but I guess facts never get in the way of a good argument, do they?

[adam_lakesuperior]

i think i saw Jerry Michalauk (or how ever you spell his name) bump fireing a 1911 on a show on tv, can't remember the name of it but it was on like the history channel or some such...i guess they did have a disclamour about "trained pro's" and "don't try this at home".