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1BigPea · 06-20-2008, 09:51 AM

This is an update on Assembly Bill 2062...

Dangerous Anti-Gun Bills Moving Forward in California Senate!

Please Make Your Voice Heard Today!

Three anti-gun bills are making their way through the California Senate and it is imperative that you voice your opposition to them.

Assembly Bill 2062 was passed by the Senate Public Safety Committee on Tuesday, June 17. The bill now heads to the Senate Appropriations Committee for its consideration.

Sponsored by State Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), AB2062 would make it a crime to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a "handgun ammunition vendor" in the Department of Justice's database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require vendors to keep a record of the transaction including the ammunition buyer's name, driver's license, the quantity, caliber, type of ammunition purchased, and right thumbprint, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice. All ammunition sales in the state of California would be subject to a $3 per transaction tax. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited. Any violator of AB2062 would be subject to civil fines.

SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE (OPPOSE AB2062):

State Senator Tom Torlakson (Chair)
Phone: (916) 651-4007
Fax: (916) 445-2527

State Senator Dave Cox (Vice Chair)
Phone: (916) 651-4001
Fax: (916) 324-2680

State Senator Samuel Aanestad
Phone: (916) 651-4004
Fax: (916) 445-7750

State Senator Roy Ashburn
Phone: (916) 651-4018
Fax: (916) 322-3304

State Senator Gilbert Cedillo
Phone: (916) 651-4022
Fax: (916) 327-8817

State Senator Ellen Corbett
Phone: (916) 651-4010
Fax: (916) 327-2433

State Senator Robert Dutton
Phone: (916) 651-4031
Fax: (916) 327-2272

State Senator Dean Florez
Phone: (916) 651-4016
Fax: (916) 327-5989

State Senator Sheila Kuehl
Phone: (916) 651-4023
Fax: (916) 324-4823
senator.kuehl@sen.ca.gov

State Senator Jenny Oropeza
Phone: (916) 651-4028
Fax: (916) 323-6056

State Senator Mark Ridley-Thomas
Phone: (916) 651-4026
Fax: (916) 445-8899

State Senator George Runner
Phone: (916) 651-4017
Fax: (916) 445-4662

State Senator Joe Simitian
Phone: (916) 651-4011
Fax: (916) 323-4529State Senator Mark Wyland
Phone: (916) 651-4038
Fax: (916) 446-7382

State Senator Leland Yee
Phone: (916) 651-4008
Fax: (916) 327-2186

IHasanXD · 06-20-2008, 10:29 AM

kalifornia is a lost cause. if they cant completely outlaw guns, they will do anything they can to screw gun owners. frankly, im surprised they havent just said guns are ok, however it is illegal to discharge a firearm unless you are active duty leo or .mil

1BigPea · 06-20-2008, 10:35 AM

Yes, the laws here are all messed up but I'm still going to make some calls to see what the general consensus is with the Senators on the contact list.

nickb · 06-20-2008, 10:50 AM

I'm on it.

1BigPea · 06-20-2008, 11:16 AM

This should help everyone save some time...

Dave Cox does oppose this bill but his office did give me the Appropriations Committee names to call and contact. It's very easy, just dial the number and let them know you urge them to oppose AB-2062.

If this bill passes the Apporpriations committee it goes to the Senate floor, not sure what the chances of it passing there are but with the way this state is ANTI 2nd AMENDMENT it probably has a good chance of getting passed.

Take 5 minutes, call the numbers, you'll be glad you did.

Call these numbers...

-Cedillo
-Corbett
-Florez
-Kuehl (definitely)

-Oropeza
-Simitian
-Yee
-Torlakson

Bill in San Jose · 06-20-2008, 11:19 AM

My Dad's expression about "Pi$$ing into a fan" comes to mind trying to find any common sense here.

You know what they're doing is chasing the law-abiding, [deleted] people out of the state. I can't tell you how many I know who are planning to move out, they've had enough.

1BigPea · 06-20-2008, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill in San Jose

My Dad's expression about "Pi$$ing into a fan" comes to mind trying to find any common sense here.

You know what they're doing is chasing the law-abiding, white people out of the state. I can't tell you how many I know who are planning to move out, they've had enough.

It's almost half and half right now so every call does count...sorry to see you feel that you can't do anything about it. Just let it happen and then move out of state.

Wu Wei · 06-20-2008, 12:01 PM

I'm not a Kalifornian, but I am going to butt in. Making a few phone calls is not pointless, time and again I hear from political staff that those letters and phone calls are counted and legislators do notice. They may not change their mind, but they do notice.

The other argument is that it is better to die fighting than laying down - I think that applies here as well. Better to lose rights while kicking and screaming than while shrugging ones shoulders.

"Do not go gently into that good night." - Dylan Thomas

PRC-E6 · 06-20-2008, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill in San Jose

You know what they're doing is chasing the law-abiding, white people out of the state.

... Not just the white people...

Calls being made.

Bill in San Jose · 06-20-2008, 02:04 PM

I called the top 2, since my state senator is not on the committee.

State Senator Tom Torlakson's office took the call/comment.

State Senator Dave Cox's office said he was opposed to the bill, and asked for my phone # so my call could be formally logged. It makes me wonder if that is the rule, if #1 really cared?

Also called:

-Cedillo
-Corbett
-Florez
-Kuehl
-Oropeza
-Simitian
-Yee
-Torlakson

06-20-2008, 10:29 AM	#2
IHasanXD XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 557	kalifornia is a lost cause. if they cant completely outlaw guns, they will do anything they can to screw gun owners. frankly, im surprised they havent just said guns are ok, however it is illegal to discharge a firearm unless you are active duty leo or .mil __________________ 4" XD .40S&W OD, CZ 40-P, Springfield 1911 G.I. w/ArmorKote and slim carry grips, Ithica Model 37 12G, Mosin Nagant M44, WASR-10, Mossberg Plinkster .22lr.

06-20-2008, 10:35 AM	#3
1BigPea XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Orange County, Ca Posts: 301	I meant to post this in Chatter Box but either way... Yes, the laws here are all messed up but I'm still going to make some calls to see what the general consensus is with the Senators on the contact list. __________________ Hey Obama "The 2nd Amendment ain't about duck hunting" ------------------------------------------------------------------- GET THE FACTS HERE... www.GunBanObama.com

06-20-2008, 10:50 AM	#4
nickb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,698	I'm on it. __________________ No PM sent..... But the average human can travel 21 feet in just about one second.

06-20-2008, 11:16 AM	#5
1BigPea XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Orange County, Ca Posts: 301	Update: Spoke To Senator Dave Coxs' Office This should help everyone save some time... Dave Cox does oppose this bill but his office did give me the Appropriations Committee names to call and contact. It's very easy, just dial the number and let them know you urge them to oppose AB-2062. If this bill passes the Apporpriations committee it goes to the Senate floor, not sure what the chances of it passing there are but with the way this state is ANTI 2nd AMENDMENT it probably has a good chance of getting passed. Take 5 minutes, call the numbers, you'll be glad you did. Call these numbers... -Cedillo -Corbett -Florez -Kuehl (definitely) -Oropeza -Simitian -Yee -Torlakson __________________ Hey Obama "The 2nd Amendment ain't about duck hunting" ------------------------------------------------------------------- GET THE FACTS HERE... www.GunBanObama.com

06-20-2008, 11:19 AM	#6
Bill in San Jose XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,390	My Dad's expression about "Pi$$ing into a fan" comes to mind trying to find any common sense here. You know what they're doing is chasing the law-abiding, [deleted] people out of the state. I can't tell you how many I know who are planning to move out, they've had enough. __________________ The truth be told, in all my years in the Capitol I have never met a legislator who harbors more contempt for the law-abiding firearm owner than does Barack Obama. Rich Pearson knows Barack Obama Served in the Illinois state capitol as chief lobbyist for the Illinois State Rifle Association. http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4904149&EDATE= Last edited by Bill in San Jose; 06-20-2008 at 02:09 PM.

06-20-2008, 09:51 AM	#1
1BigPea XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Orange County, Ca Posts: 301	California Members Please Take Action! This is an update on Assembly Bill 2062... Dangerous Anti-Gun Bills Moving Forward in California Senate! Please Make Your Voice Heard Today! Three anti-gun bills are making their way through the California Senate and it is imperative that you voice your opposition to them. Assembly Bill 2062 was passed by the Senate Public Safety Committee on Tuesday, June 17. The bill now heads to the Senate Appropriations Committee for its consideration. Sponsored by State Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), AB2062 would make it a crime to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a "handgun ammunition vendor" in the Department of Justice's database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require vendors to keep a record of the transaction including the ammunition buyer's name, driver's license, the quantity, caliber, type of ammunition purchased, and right thumbprint, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice. All ammunition sales in the state of California would be subject to a $3 per transaction tax. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited. Any violator of AB2062 would be subject to civil fines. SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE (OPPOSE AB2062): State Senator Tom Torlakson (Chair) Phone: (916) 651-4007 Fax: (916) 445-2527 State Senator Dave Cox (Vice Chair) Phone: (916) 651-4001 Fax: (916) 324-2680 State Senator Samuel Aanestad Phone: (916) 651-4004 Fax: (916) 445-7750 State Senator Roy Ashburn Phone: (916) 651-4018 Fax: (916) 322-3304 State Senator Gilbert Cedillo Phone: (916) 651-4022 Fax: (916) 327-8817 State Senator Ellen Corbett Phone: (916) 651-4010 Fax: (916) 327-2433 State Senator Robert Dutton Phone: (916) 651-4031 Fax: (916) 327-2272 State Senator Dean Florez Phone: (916) 651-4016 Fax: (916) 327-5989 State Senator Sheila Kuehl Phone: (916) 651-4023 Fax: (916) 324-4823 senator.kuehl@sen.ca.gov State Senator Jenny Oropeza Phone: (916) 651-4028 Fax: (916) 323-6056 State Senator Mark Ridley-Thomas Phone: (916) 651-4026 Fax: (916) 445-8899 State Senator George Runner Phone: (916) 651-4017 Fax: (916) 445-4662 State Senator Joe Simitian Phone: (916) 651-4011 Fax: (916) 323-4529State Senator Mark Wyland Phone: (916) 651-4038 Fax: (916) 446-7382 State Senator Leland Yee Phone: (916) 651-4008 Fax: (916) 327-2186 __________________ Hey Obama "The 2nd Amendment ain't about duck hunting" ------------------------------------------------------------------- GET THE FACTS HERE... www.GunBanObama.com

06-20-2008, 12:01 PM	#8
Wu Wei XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 658	I'm not a Kalifornian, but I am going to butt in. Making a few phone calls is not pointless, time and again I hear from political staff that those letters and phone calls are counted and legislators do notice. They may not change their mind, but they do notice. The other argument is that it is better to die fighting than laying down - I think that applies here as well. Better to lose rights while kicking and screaming than while shrugging ones shoulders. "Do not go gently into that good night." - Dylan Thomas __________________ "Since when do lyrical skills have to do with killin' a cat? / What kind of chitlins is that?" -MF Doom Humans have always carried a projectile weapon, a blade, and fire. Who am I to discard my humanity?

06-20-2008, 02:04 PM	#10
Bill in San Jose XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,390	I called the top 2, since my state senator is not on the committee. State Senator Tom Torlakson's office took the call/comment. State Senator Dave Cox's office said he was opposed to the bill, and asked for my phone # so my call could be formally logged. It makes me wonder if that is the rule, if #1 really cared? Also called: -Cedillo -Corbett -Florez -Kuehl -Oropeza -Simitian -Yee -Torlakson __________________ The truth be told, in all my years in the Capitol I have never met a legislator who harbors more contempt for the law-abiding firearm owner than does Barack Obama. Rich Pearson knows Barack Obama Served in the Illinois state capitol as chief lobbyist for the Illinois State Rifle Association. http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4904149&EDATE= Last edited by Bill in San Jose; 06-20-2008 at 02:18 PM.

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