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Simple Man · 06-19-2008, 12:24 PM

I had the impression that the grip safety would/could pinch or at least be a "hot spot" but after firing one the first time I was sold. Can't even tell it's there.

No matter how many times you check, it is still a little unnerving having to dry fire it to field strip it.

Breadfan · 06-19-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Man

No matter how many times you check, it is still a little unnerving having to dry fire it to field strip it.

Well, actually I'm not worried about that, rather the fact that it's not 'healthy' for the firing pin. I always use a snap cap upon field stripping, but do forget to put it there which can be a bit frustrating alltogether.

chad4000 · 06-19-2008, 02:13 PM

New here and new to XD but having to dry fire to strip it was my only problem as well. I was also worried about the firing pin but I guess if its designed to do that then ok.

no decocker has me a little wiered out as well breadfan. having to drop the clip, eject the shell to decock is kinda wierd. but I am used to it now. not to mention you probably shouldnt have it racked unless you plan on needing to shoot.

Breadfan · 06-19-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chad4000

New here and new to XD but having to dry fire to strip it was my only problem as well. I was also worried about the firing pin but I guess if its designed to do that then ok.

no decocker has me a little wiered out as well breadfan. having to drop the clip, eject the shell to decock is kinda wierd. but I am used to it now. not to mention you probably shouldnt have it racked unless you plan on needing to shoot.

Yeah I know, it's a internal striker-type pistol. They're supposed to work that way (same as Glock).
I guess it's the way it has to be. I keep mine always decocked (with a snapcap in it) with a mag in.

I understand folks who conceal carry it in condition 1 (and no doubt XD is perfectly safe that way as well), but as for the home defense, and especially if in a quiet neighbourhood, this works just fine, at least for me.

Tally XD · 06-19-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Breadfan

Well, actually I'm not worried about that, rather the fact that it's not 'healthy' for the firing pin. I always use a snap cap upon field stripping, but do forget to put it there which can be a bit frustrating alltogether.

How can you keep a round in the chamber when field stripping the XD? Once you lock the slide to the rear, in order to flip the takedown lever up, whatever is in the chamber is evacuated. There is no way I can see to keep a round in the chamber before stripping it down.

Centerfire pistols are not as subject, it at all, to firing pin damage from dry fire.

grampes · 06-19-2008, 04:12 PM

I was talking to a local shop about this very fact. They stated there was only one problem with the grip safety that that they knew about. He knew of one person that had the grip safety break or malfunction with a live round in the chamber. Since you cannot rack the slide w/o depressing the grip safety there was no way to remove the round. From what he said the owner shipped it back to springfield wrapped in kevlar for them to remove the round and fix the problem.
Rare I'm sure... possible I suppose though I'm no expert.

Oremus · 06-19-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by drgonzo

I was trying to choose between an XD40 and a Glock 23. I went with the XD40 b/c the following weren't on the G23:

Grip safety
Cocked striker indicator
Loaded chamber indicator

Actually, Glocks do have a loaded chamber indicator starting w/ newer gen3 the extractor protrudes (on the side) when a round is chambered.

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Originally Posted by Breadfan

it's not 'healthy' for the firing pin. I always use a snap cap upon field stripping, but do forget to put it there which can be a bit frustrating alltogether.

Some people practice an hour a day every day with dry fire drills w/o snap caps. It's a myth that you can damage a *modern* centerfire firearm by dry firing - rimfires are a different story.

Dry fire on!

Breadfan · 06-19-2008, 04:41 PM

No I don't think it's a myth. If I understand correctly, rollpins get damaged after some time if there has been lots of dry fires.

It's a bit different here and I can't just buy them or order them somewhere, would have to drive to the factory where XD's are produced and possibly wait for it to be replaced and don't want to go thru all the hussle if I can prevent it or at least postpone it for a long time.

Oremus · 06-19-2008, 04:46 PM

SA wouldn't have designed it to be dry fired to field strip if it was detrimental to the gun. No need to baby it! Dry fire that sucker!

XDanthony · 06-19-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Oremus

SA wouldn't have designed it to be dry fired to field strip if it was detrimental to the gun. No need to baby it! Dry fire that sucker!

SA did not design the gun.

06-19-2008, 04:41 PM	#28
Breadfan XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Croatia Posts: 1,182	No I don't think it's a myth. If I understand correctly, rollpins get damaged after some time if there has been lots of dry fires. It's a bit different here and I can't just buy them or order them somewhere, would have to drive to the factory where XD's are produced and possibly wait for it to be replaced and don't want to go thru all the hussle if I can prevent it or at least postpone it for a long time. __________________ Listen to the IPSC song! Listen to the XD Song! PINK WOLF

06-19-2008, 04:46 PM	#29
Oremus XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 27	SA wouldn't have designed it to be dry fired to field strip if it was detrimental to the gun. No need to baby it! Dry fire that sucker! __________________ If guns kill people then why aren't our prisons full of them?

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06-19-2008, 12:24 PM	#21
Simple Man XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West KY Posts: 16	I had the impression that the grip safety would/could pinch or at least be a "hot spot" but after firing one the first time I was sold. Can't even tell it's there. No matter how many times you check, it is still a little unnerving having to dry fire it to field strip it.

06-19-2008, 02:13 PM	#23
chad4000 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 247	New here and new to XD but having to dry fire to strip it was my only problem as well. I was also worried about the firing pin but I guess if its designed to do that then ok. no decocker has me a little wiered out as well breadfan. having to drop the clip, eject the shell to decock is kinda wierd. but I am used to it now. not to mention you probably shouldnt have it racked unless you plan on needing to shoot.

06-19-2008, 04:12 PM	#26
grampes XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 20	I was talking to a local shop about this very fact. They stated there was only one problem with the grip safety that that they knew about. He knew of one person that had the grip safety break or malfunction with a live round in the chamber. Since you cannot rack the slide w/o depressing the grip safety there was no way to remove the round. From what he said the owner shipped it back to springfield wrapped in kevlar for them to remove the round and fix the problem. Rare I'm sure... possible I suppose though I'm no expert.